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Atmosphere Intercontinental Airlines Uk - What?!

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Old 11th Jan 2019, 10:38
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Popped their heads over the parapet again today - According to Twitter they have entered in to a collaboration with "Italian Airlines" (who incidentally look barely more organised that Atmosphere). Apparently Italian already have agreements in place with Ryanair and Spirit to feed onto their long haul legs.

Also have entered into partnership with (sic) "another former Thai Airline who hold a valid AOL License" to establish a Thai AOC...then the usual rubbish about UK AOC to follow blah blah. Also renewed their investment requests.
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Old 11th Jan 2019, 10:45
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Their lack of industry knowledge never fails to amaze me. Why does he need two AOCs?

Who on earth are Italian Airlines? Does he mean Air Italy? I can't imagine they would entertain this farce for a coffee let alone any sort of agreement.
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Old 11th Jan 2019, 11:03
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My mistake it's Italian AIRWAYS. Apparently Italian Airways are indeed "a thing" (as the youth of today say). They too appear to be little more than some scribblings on a fag packet - planned for a 2018 launch etc. Definitely different people to Atmosphere, and am happy to be corrected if Italian Airlines have developed further than my initial check suggested. Either way I expect the relationship is likely fictitious.
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Old 11th Jan 2019, 11:20
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Never heard of them either - but Google has. If ever you want a prÚcis of what is wrong with Italian aviation, this is it:

The airline is backed by a 50 million euro investment. It is led by Giuseppe Gentile, who founded Air Europe and Air Italy, and was also the CEO of Eurofly.
Need a bit more than that, sunshine.

Italian Airways initially plans to fly only from Milan Bergamo to North, Central and South America using leased B777-200s with 340 seats.
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A LOT more with those sorts of routes....

The carrier is still awaiting its Air Operator Certificate (AOC).
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You do surprise me.....

“We will not have problems [getting approval to start the airline]”, said Gentile....
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And the 2018 start date?

....who expects his airline to reach its goal of 5,000 employees.
It has a goal, not in terms of fleet size, turnover, or profitability, but in terms of headcount. Yea gods and little fishes - or rather DivinitÓ e piccoli pesci.... if you want a line that explains Alitalia, that is it.

I notice that young Jason is now listing his assets on his various social media channels but it is absolutely clear he doesn't understand what assets actually are. Giving him the benefit of the doubt and assuming he is not lying through his hat as per usual.....

A completed 36 room hotel complex.... and a head office building ready for interior and exterior renovation
I'm guessing the former could be an asset, but how was it funded if not with debt? And he keeps talking about his Chelmsford HQ, which is leased. So not an asset.

​​​​​​​36 acres of land in Thailand
Really?

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A five (5) year contract with Intellisys Aviation for the use of the Amelia Res System,​​​
That's not an asset. That's just SAAS.

​​​​​​​A contract with Airbridge International Agencies...
That's not an asset. That's just a commercial agreement.

Nice try.
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Old 16th Jan 2019, 09:07
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Claiming on twitter this morningto have acquired city airways AOL to apply to get a Thai AOC in the next 4 months
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Old 19th Jan 2019, 13:02
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Now claiming that the booking engine will be live in March. He does know you need an AOC to sell seats??

Also, if has bought this airline (which was never wound up) he has acquired the debts. When the penny drops we should perhaps brace ourselves for a whole load of GoFundMe pages, hundreds of sick dog and cat stories and god knows what else....
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