With Teutonic thoroughness
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Excuse me, maybe I don't get it. Where in the world would a FAA investigate such an "incident" ?
LBA untersucht Air-Berlin-Flugmanöver in Düsseldorf
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Tower view: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-bZaghb1CU
Terminal view: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWNtRusb01k
Terminal view: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWNtRusb01k
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Overheard many years later in a car near Dusseldorf:
Former Captain: I had a great career and yes they cancelled my licence and fined me 10,000 euro for that flyby at the end but I was retiring and had a huge pension so it was worth it...
Friend And what about the rest of the crew. They did the same to the FO didn't they...
Former Captain: Ask her yourself , she's working here
former F/O Willkommen bei Mcdonalds was möchten Sie
Friend And what about the rest of the crew. They did the same to the FO didn't they...
Former Captain: Ask her yourself , she's working here
former F/O Willkommen bei Mcdonalds was möchten Sie
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People with their smartphones who don't know anything about aviation 
Again, someone with a phone is an expert on aircraft go-around techniques. And there was me thinking a little knowledge, experience and examinations were needed. Silly me.
A load of twaddle.
Hard to tell, but it looks textbook to me.
Again, someone with a phone is an expert on aircraft go-around techniques. And there was me thinking a little knowledge, experience and examinations were needed. Silly me.
A load of twaddle.
Hard to tell, but it looks textbook to me.
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The German Federal Bureau of Aircraft Accident Investigation is subordinated to the Federal Ministry of Transport and is responsible for the investigation of civil aircraft accidents and serious incidents within Germany.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kle80KB_s3I&t=28s
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Seems tower was okay with it!
Pilot announcement onboard:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxaVSbsZt3M
Pilot announcement onboard:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxaVSbsZt3M
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The appalling times we do live in... higviz west idiots and sumsuch do dictate our "wellbeing" - a perfectly gentle, nice and safe flyby on a last flight of an airline is now a problem ?
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What exuberance? He had got the permission that in case of a go-around (for which absolutely no permission or explanation or anything is required) he could fly a visual pattern instead of following the standard missed approach procedure. And this is what he did, thereby not exceeding pitch and roll angles for visual maneuvers.
Whether or not they investigated the Royal Air Maroc takeoff is irrelevant.
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Seem like the "Guard police" has transformed into "the last flight visual pattern police". What about fire trucks spraying at retirement flights? Shocking abuse of emergency equipment? Lets not kill all the fun in this world...
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I have no idea about their SOPs but ours say "no turns below 400ft". That would be 120m and I guess he was not lower than that when he turned. But maybe there was a large flock of Canada geese in front of him which made him start the turn a little earlier for the sake of wildlife preservation. Who knows.
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I have no idea about their SOPs but ours say "no turns below 400ft". That would be 120m and I guess he was not lower than that when he turned. But maybe there was a large flock of Canada geese in front of him which made him start the turn a little earlier for the sake of wildlife preservation. Who knows.
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I have no idea about their SOPs but ours say "no turns below 400ft". That would be 120m and I guess he was not lower than that when he turned. But maybe there was a large flock of Canada geese in front of him which made him start the turn a little earlier for the sake of wildlife preservation. Who knows.
Which roughly translates to: According to DFS (German ATC) the pilot had queried the direction in the case of a go-around before initiating the approach. The controllers granted permission for a left turn. The height at which the pilot starts the turn is his own responsibility."