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Last Fokker flight by KLM

Old 25th Oct 2017, 14:04
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Apparently both Belfast and Durham-Tees are switching to Embraers as of next week, just when I thought they'd need the Cityjet RJs most. No idea how KLM are managing their fleet.
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Old 25th Oct 2017, 21:39
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Originally Posted by El Bunto View Post
Apparently both Belfast and Durham-Tees are switching to Embraers as of next week, just when I thought they'd need the Cityjet RJs most. No idea how KLM are managing their fleet.
I'd make suggestion that the reason they have been sub-chartering in during this transition period between Fokker/Embraer is because they've, back to back, had crews offline retraining on the Embraer, ground school, simulator, touch and go's, umpteen sectors line training waiting in the queue for the next Training Captain to become available etc.

Reading here there has been innuendo that KLM haven't been doing their planning, I'd suggest that their training department has been doing their planning very efficiently and, as yet, KLM don't have a spotter planning department!
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Old 26th Oct 2017, 08:34
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KLM don't have a spotter planning department!
If any airline was going to have a "spotter planning dept" it would have to be a Dutch one!
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Old 27th Oct 2017, 14:20
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Originally Posted by Harry Wayfarers View Post
Lovely ...
This is not, nor has ever been a secret. He flies to keep current and valid. I worked at KLC Ops for a number of years and although it was always a treat to have him flying but it was no different than working with any other pilot. That's the beauty of it. But it's common knowledge here in NL.
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Old 27th Oct 2017, 15:25
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I'd make suggestion that the reason they have been sub-chartering in during this transition period between Fokker/Embraer is because they've, back to back, had crews offline retraining on the Embraer, ground school, simulator, touch and go's, umpteen sectors line training waiting in the queue for the next Training Captain to become available etc.
I think that was pretty obvious all along Harry.

Here is the post from N707ZS which started the whole discussion:

Have they got enough aircraft to replace the retiring aircraft? Noticed an RJ-85 operating a KLM flight this morning.
Therefore the answer to N707ZS was that in fact, albeit on a temporary basis, no they don't have the required number of aircraft for a straight transition and therefore that is why they are sub chartering CityJet equipment.
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Old 29th Oct 2017, 15:03
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Old 29th Oct 2017, 21:07
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I actually made a special trip to Amsterdam to photograph the Anthony Fokker paint job. It cleverly managed to evade me several times until this moment:

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Old 30th Oct 2017, 08:13
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Speaking of short-field landing techniques.......F70.jpg
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Old 30th Oct 2017, 09:03
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I did notice at least four F70's landing at Norwich yesterday, possible storage?
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Old 30th Oct 2017, 09:15
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I did notice at least four F70's landing at Norwich yesterday, possible storage?
I've read elsewhere that that's where some are going.

Sentimental, perhaps, but I'll always associate them with keeping Teesside Airport alive!
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Old 30th Oct 2017, 10:54
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I did notice at least four F70's landing at Norwich yesterday, possible storage?
These were the last four that are shown in my photos above. They have all been sold to new owners and will be reconfigured for them at Norwich. I don't know which company is involved though.
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Old 30th Oct 2017, 13:02
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70s at Norwich

Can confirm all the fleet are now at Norwich and will be worked on for new owners

PH-KZP which was withdrawn couple weeks back, has been painted all white and stored North side


Saturday night PH-KZI & PH-KZM flew into Norwich and stored, KZM went into KLM hangers as not seen Sunday , ZI parked North Side

Sunday brought in PH-KZB, PH-KZL, PH-KZS, PH-KZU, all moved to North side during the day

we shall see where they all depart to

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Old 30th Oct 2017, 14:18
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PH-KZK is in Maastricht and reported to be heading to Kenya.
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Old 30th Oct 2017, 15:00
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I guess PH-KZW has been scrapped, seeing as its tail is now part of a monument at Schiphol.

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Old 20th Nov 2017, 21:30
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Austrian is officially retiring their last Fokker 100 next Wednesday, November 29th but with less fanfare than the Dutch. Austrian has been operating Fokkers for less than a third of the time the Dutch have had them, however.

In real life the airplane will continue to fly till January, so Spotters still have a chance.

No aircraft changes during the day for the few remaining pilots, however
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Old 21st Nov 2017, 00:04
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Re: the Antony Fokker colour scheme. Why are a Dutch airline saying 'Thank you' to a Dutchman in English?
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Old 21st Nov 2017, 10:20
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jensdad, because it's an international airline with many non-Dutch speaking passengers. Don't worry, Anthony spoke English too!
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Old 21st Nov 2017, 11:58
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Hi HT, Just a bit of a 'bugbear' of mine wrt the aviation industry. I do wonder how people feel when they go to airports in their home countries and see barely a single word of their native language. Chaos at Pisa a few years ago when the only word of Italian on the desk screens was 'volo EZYxxxx'and the majority of the punters didn't grasp the difference between 'check-in' and 'bag drop'. Not a criticism of the punters, why should they?


Anyway, I digress , Sad to see the Fokkers going. I'm glad that I got to fly on a couple of examples this year AMS-LUX and back.
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Old 30th Nov 2017, 15:18
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Last 70s at NWI

Few shots recently took at Norwich

North Side Parking area by Mark, on Flickr

North Side Parking area by Mark, on Flickr

North Side Parking area by Mark, on Flickr

into the sunset
Fokker 70 PH-KZU by Mark, on Flickr


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