AF66 CDG-LAX diverts - uncontained engine failure over Atlantic
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Depending on what caused the accident, it could also be a good idea to revisit (in court) the issue whether the regulator is possibly liable for negligent certification.
Depending on what caused the accident, it could also be a good idea to revisit (in court) the issue whether the regulator is possibly liable for negligent certification.
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Several more months? Not surprising, since this is a complex dance of sorts in which everyone involved is trying to see to it that they get the best deal after all the dust settles.
If the legal issues involved in this aircraft's engine problems are anything like what happens in the US when an Amtrak (US national passenger rail system) car gets damaged, that may well take years. I really hope all of these problems -- mechanical and logistical and administrative and financial and legal and insurance -- get resolved fairly and soon.
Won't sitting outside in the weather for months cause problems? Or are there ways to protect her until she can be flown out? (I only ask because I do not know, not being any kind of aviation professional, and I want to learn.)
If the legal issues involved in this aircraft's engine problems are anything like what happens in the US when an Amtrak (US national passenger rail system) car gets damaged, that may well take years. I really hope all of these problems -- mechanical and logistical and administrative and financial and legal and insurance -- get resolved fairly and soon.
Won't sitting outside in the weather for months cause problems? Or are there ways to protect her until she can be flown out? (I only ask because I do not know, not being any kind of aviation professional, and I want to learn.)
According to latest news , a new engine will arrive in Goose Bay today and the A380 will return to france in december .
https://www.pilootenvliegtuig.nl/201...80-800-canada/
https://www.pilootenvliegtuig.nl/201...80-800-canada/
Bit difficult establishing market value right now as there have been no known transactions. At some point some bright spark will buy them up cheap and make a decent return, as happened in the past with a number of aircraft, viscounts and fokkers spring to mind. Hifly and Amadeo have made moves, who knows how realistic, let’s see what happens.
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From the boneyard?
Well from Tucson, at least.
The An-124 routed Davis-Monthan-Goose Bay-Toulouse-Kiev, so it's almost certainly connected with the Airbus, but it's not immediately obvious where the replacement engine would have originated from or where the remains of the original one were bound.
The An-124 routed Davis-Monthan-Goose Bay-Toulouse-Kiev, so it's almost certainly connected with the Airbus, but it's not immediately obvious where the replacement engine would have originated from or where the remains of the original one were bound.
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Who says AF did the asking ? 
If it isn't going to be running during the ferry it needn't be new or fresh out of the shop, so I wonder if the engine is borrowed from A6-EDF or A6-EDP, both of which entered the Dubai maintenance facility in the last 8/9 days according to The EK Source ...
If it isn't going to be running during the ferry it needn't be new or fresh out of the shop, so I wonder if the engine is borrowed from A6-EDF or A6-EDP, both of which entered the Dubai maintenance facility in the last 8/9 days according to The EK Source ...
We don't know for sure that the replacement engine isn't going to be operating, particularly as the consensus seems to be that it's an AF crew who will be flying the aircraft out.
Come to that, if it turns out to be a four-engined ferry there's no reason why the new engine needs to be a freshly overhauled one. The other three obviously aren't.
Come to that, if it turns out to be a four-engined ferry there's no reason why the new engine needs to be a freshly overhauled one. The other three obviously aren't.
Engine manufactures routinely have a number of "lease pool" engines - engines that belong to the manufacturer but are leased to operators who - for whatever reason - have run low on spares. Given that half the in-service fleet is based out of DXB, it would be a logical place to park a lease pool spare.
In other words, that the engine was in Dubai doesn't mean the engine belongs to EK.
In other words, that the engine was in Dubai doesn't mean the engine belongs to EK.
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Well whatever the source and the story, they'll be able to unwrap the offering in Goose Bay before tea time now.
Engine manufactures routinely have a number of "lease pool" engines - engines that belong to the manufacturer but are leased to operators who - for whatever reason - have run low on spares.
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just look up what a lease is. there are leased cars too.
including a clause in a contract that the owning party can cancel the lease any time would really drive down the price of the lease. so i would presume no there is no such clause. and airlines would never agree to such a clause.
so if the engine is currently leased the manufacturer wouldn't have the right to take possession of the engine even if it was a spare.
what the other poster meant: emirates leases quite a few engines so it's logical to assume EA would have an engine ready to lease for emirates or one for that the lease has expired.
including a clause in a contract that the owning party can cancel the lease any time would really drive down the price of the lease. so i would presume no there is no such clause. and airlines would never agree to such a clause.
so if the engine is currently leased the manufacturer wouldn't have the right to take possession of the engine even if it was a spare.
what the other poster meant: emirates leases quite a few engines so it's logical to assume EA would have an engine ready to lease for emirates or one for that the lease has expired.
Can the manufacturer order it be removed from from an operating aircraft that’s scheduled to fly, or just one that’s spare?
An example of the latter might be an operator had to pull a couple engines unexpectedly - and it'll be several months before they come back out of overhaul. So they lease an engine for six months to tide them over, figuring at the end of six months they'll be good again. Except that at the end of that six months, they've had a couple more engines go south unexpectedly and they still need the lease engine. They go back to the engine manufacture and ask to extend the lease - at that point the manufacture can legitimately tell them no, I need the engine back, I've promised it to XYZ - sorry... Of course if they don't need it back they'd be happy to extend the lease.
I used to sit in technical reviews with all three major manufactures - and one of the first things on the agenda was spares status - both of the engines owned by the operators and the manufacture's spares pool. Usually it was routine, but occasionally it would be tight and there was concern that an unplanned removal could force an AOG situation... However I can't recall an actual extended AOG situation caused by lack of spare engines (beyond the 'normal' time to get a crew and spare to remote airport and R&R the engine).