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BA Brake Overheat in Nice

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Old 15th Apr 2017, 17:12
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BA Brake Overheat in Nice

BA 767 got its brakes cooled by the fire brigade in Nice today.
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And the point is?
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I'm not sure anyone is trying to make any point if I'm honest. Are you implying that it's totally normal to get brakes cooked by the fire services?
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Slightly more to it than meets the eye - a/c is still on the ground at Nice, 7 hours after it was due to depart on the return flight to LHR.

I wonder what they sprayed the brakes with?
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Having the brakes cooked by AFRS would, indeed, be an event almost worthy of a thread here. Having the brakes cooled, however, would warrant less of attention.
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I'm not sure anyone is trying to make any point if I'm honest. Are you implying that it's totally normal to get brakes cooked by the fire services?
Possibly landed on 04L instead of 04R? I think 04L is a bit on the short side for a 763, no?
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I've often landed a 767 on 04L, no problem with the length.
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Prior to 9/11 I made an approach to Heathrow in the jump seat with a pilot I knew (still know, for that matter) in a 757. We landed with full autobrake, full reverse thrust, all the lift dumpers and anything else that would slow us (plane following us was reported as too close). As we pulled off 27R the brake overheat warning went off. I was a bit surprised when the co-pilot went delving into the manual as we taxied but the answer he came up with was that they would have to tell the next crew to wait a bit longer than the planned turnaround (I seem to remember the extra was 40 minutes but I have no idea what the planned turn time was).

I know the 757 and 767 have different weights etc but I'm a little surprised that one would need cooling by the fire service and the other wouldn't.
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I know the 757 and 767 have different weights etc but I'm a little surprised that one would need cooling by the fire service and the other wouldn't.
The difference could be that one appeared to be on fire and the other didn't.
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Originally Posted by Hartington
Prior to 9/11 I made an approach to Heathrow in the jump seat with a pilot I knew (still know, for that matter) in a 757. We landed with full autobrake, full reverse thrust, all the lift dumpers and anything else that would slow us (plane following us was reported as too close). As we pulled off 27R the brake overheat warning went off. I was a bit surprised when the co-pilot went delving into the manual as we taxied but the answer he came up with was that they would have to tell the next crew to wait a bit longer than the planned turnaround (I seem to remember the extra was 40 minutes but I have no idea what the planned turn time was).

I know the 757 and 767 have different weights etc but I'm a little surprised that one would need cooling by the fire service and the other wouldn't.
Full length LHR 27R is never a problem for a serviceable 75. Perhaps someone trying to show off by making an early exit?
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Originally Posted by Ivan aromer
Full length LHR 27R is never a problem for a serviceable 75.
Though missing several usable exits might not be go down too well with ATC and the following aircraft.
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NCE prefer/require use of 04R/22L if you're landing with a technical problem (don't know if that is the case in this incident). I found this out some years back when I landed a B733 there with HYD A system failed.
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Originally Posted by mockingjay
I'm not sure anyone is trying to make any point if I'm honest. Are you implying that it's totally normal to get brakes cooked by the fire services?
It happens, I remember a 330 at BHX having two perfectly serviceable brake packs destryoyed by firemen after the crew radioed the company engineers that they had a hot brake indication on ECAM,
This mesage was somehow intercepted by trumpton who pitched up before the enginers arrived and doused the brakes with predictable results despite the crew informing them it wasnt a serious issue
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Had a hot brake in Leipzig a few years ago, >700 C. Firemen showed up with great big cooling fan and also stood by with fire hose just in case it caught fire,
No great drama except they would not let the steps come to the aircraft, so if we needed to get off quick we would have had to use a slide. (A300 Freighter, 3 crew only)
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