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Old 1st Jun 2016, 00:09
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Well, at least that stops people watching an expensive-to-put-on airshow for free!
So I am to believe that you have never watched an airshow or other airplane activities from outside an airport before ?
I've been to both sides of the fence, and a regular at Duxford normal days as I have an annual pass. During airshows, most of the people I saw in the past in the fields were photography enthusiasts, they wanted to get those perfect flying shots. The light from the south side is perfect, inside Duxford its in your face. The view was perfect and unrestricted, inside Duxford most of the crowd line is taken by enclosures of this club or that association etc etc. The crowd line access left for the rest of the public is lapped up within the first few minutes by those that park their camp chairs and 'reserve' their space for the rest of the day, so anyone wanting to do some serious photos can forget it because they cannot get anywhere near the crowd line. Lets not mention the fact that on Sunday, apart from the steep entrance fee (which is due to go up), and all the extras inside, they were also charging for the car park (which I hope does not become a new trend), and also only by pre-booking, no tickets at the gate (also another growing annoying trend). Tough luck if anyone decides to go with you last minute.

Most naughty-field types just won't go in that case. Viewing from inside the show is usually worse,
True, for all the reasons above.


The days of the naughty field are gone I'm afraid,
Quite true I'm afraid. There's no going back.

Here's one of the one of the spotters in the field at Duxford that caught my eye. I think even he won't be allowed to do this again !
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So I am to believe that you have never watched an airshow or other airplane activities from outside an airport before ?
I've been to both sides of the fence, and a regular at Duxford normal days as I have an annual pass. During airshows, most of the people I saw in the past in the fields were photography enthusiasts, they wanted to get those perfect flying shots. The light from the south side is perfect, inside Duxford its in your face. The view was perfect and unrestricted, inside Duxford most of the crowd line is taken by enclosures of this club or that association etc etc. The crowd line access left for the rest of the public is lapped up within the first few minutes by those that park their camp chairs and 'reserve' their space for the rest of the day, so anyone wanting to do some serious photos can forget it because they cannot get anywhere near the crowd line. Lets not mention the fact that on Sunday, apart from the steep entrance fee (which is due to go up), and all the extras inside, they were also charging for the car park (which I hope does not become a new trend), and also only by pre-booking, no tickets at the gate (also another growing annoying trend). Tough luck if anyone decides to go with you last minute.
The reason the prices have gone up is I believe entirely down to increased insurance costs for after the Shoreham accident, and lets not forget some of those who died in the accident were there to watch the show from outside the field. The whole point of closing roads and "naughty" fields is to stop this ever happening again
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Old 1st Jun 2016, 07:22
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The whole point of closing roads and "naughty" fields is to stop this ever happening again
I agree with safety. I was at Shoreham, I saw the whole thing. (inside the airshow I must stress !) Not those poor people's fault, but a pilot error. Nothing on the ground can prevent that. But how far do you go to ensure safety ? Technically, the M11 should be shut during displays. Duxford is the only place I would photograph from the field, everywhere else normal. Feel sorry for all those that go yearly to Waddington, seems to be an annual pilgramige judging by the photos and videos online.
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I heard that now they only land or turn finals over the M11, cant confirm that as didnt go at the weekend. The hunter at shoreham was in effect doing aerobatics over what they are now calling a "secondary crowd" and this is what they are trying to eradicate so that if there is pilot error the pilot will have a big area of nothingness to aim at !
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Old 14th Jun 2016, 10:42
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According to a link on the Military Aviation Forum the Royal Aeronautical Society seem to think there's a possibility that The Reds will not be performing aerobatics at FI this year.
See here: http://aerosociety.com/News/Insight-Blog/4451/Farnborough-Air-Show-2016-Preview#gallery[m]/16/
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Old 17th Jun 2016, 16:37
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I see that David Austin roses has been forced to close on Sunday for the Cosford air show as it is below the main display area.

Pitty, as the Rose gardens are fantastic, you get a good free view of the display and my lad has just started to show an interest in aviation deciding that he wants to be a fighter pilot.

I guess we will just have to make a trip to the South side at Manchester airport some time and see if I can persuade him that being lowly airline pilot like his dad is something worth aiming for.
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Old 19th Jun 2016, 12:41
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Shouldn't the organisers be paying compensation if they are forcing businesses, etc to close?

Closing the canal also feels wrong for several days, especially if one is travelling along it.

Smells like money talks rather than anything else. I could be wrong but the whole "you will close so we protect our revenue stream" sucks.
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Old 19th Jun 2016, 15:58
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full details and Maps are on the Rushmoor councl site . Traffic management

Management of traffic at public events - Rushmoor Borough Council

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Old 5th Jul 2016, 16:45
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Buying a trade ticket today, the drop-down box for my occupation says:-

"Maintenance/Repair/Overhall"

Ye gods, youth of today, mutter, moan...
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Perhaps they meant Maintenance/Repair/Overalls
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Moving the display west will mean no one sees nuch at all and what about fast run abd break manouvers if west to east they cannot avoid ovrrflying either crowd or lots of houses if east to west anyrun in from the east parallel to runway is again over lots of people or houses. Seems an over reaction to me because the shoreham accident seemed to be mainly caused by old jet old pilot poor planning most of which dontapply at FIA
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