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Old 6th Aug 2012, 17:32
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VC10 type aircraft with winglets

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Last week in the Rushden,Northants area, I saw an aircraft that looked like a VC10 with winglets?
I have looked at the IL-62 lookalike,no winglets,also I have looked at CRJ1000,I am certain I saw 4 engines on the back.
The aircraft was at about 3 to 4000 ft in a banking turn towards the old Thurleigh airfield,Bedford.
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Possibly a private 727, there are a couple kicking around Europe from time to time.

Google for images as I can't seem to post one at the mo.
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Perhaps they are putting winglets on the RAF VC10s and putting them back in service.
Jet2 should be interested.
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Last week in the Rushden, Northants area, I saw an aircraft that looked like a VC10 with winglets?
10/10 for specifying where you saw the aircraft, and now you could dramatically improve your chances of getting an ID if you could be a bit more specific than "last week".

A day would be good, approximate time of day even better.
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Could it have been an RAF Sentinel? Obviously it doesn't have four engines but from certain angles it can be confused with a VC-10, IMHO.

Photos: Bombardier BD-700-1A10 Sentinel R1 Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net

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Photos: Bombardier BD-700-1A10 Sentinel R1 Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net
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Thanks for the replies,looks as if the Bombadier might be the one,looking at the photo's,but I am sure I saw four engines like on a VC10.
As for the day and time I would of thought it obvious I would of added them if I could remember them,that is why I stated the sighting as last week,something that was fact!
Definitely not a B727,my father flew them for years.
Aircraft could of been going into Luton or Stanstead,do Russian A/C fly into these airports?,Have the Russians upgraded their ageing IL-62's ?

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I did notice a Rossiya IL-62 out of Stansted on FR24 late last week (when Putin was around), doubt they have winglets...?
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Two IL-62 and a IL-96 at STN on Thursday. Arrived midday ad departed around 1800-1900 for Putin.
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Aircraft could of been going into Luton or Stanstead, do Russian A/C fly into these airports?
Not as a rule. However a pair of IL-62s arrived at Stansted last week (2nd of August to be precise ), presumably special flights in connection with the Olympics.

Here they are landing:

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Have the Russians upgraded their ageing IL-62's ?
Not in the winglet department.
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IL62

Hope this works
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Hope this works
It would appear not.
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No doubt I'm going to get flamed for writing this, but I was surprised to hear of Putin's IL-62s landing at Stansted (and sorry not to see them!) I thought Russian stuff was mostly banned from the EU nowadays thanks to noise restrictions etc.
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IIRC, while airline ops are forbidden there is an exemption in the noise regs for machines on 'state' duty.
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Cannot think of anything with four engines at rear other the IL62 or VC10 and neither seems likely to sprout winglets.

What direction was the OP's machine headed?

At this end of the county, just over the M1 from Northampton, we get Birmingham inbounds just released to Brum coming down to FL60 and turning from N to route own nav Honiley. Castle Don inbounds are heading roughly north and around FL170. Type and livery discernible with naked eye.

Other n/s stuff is mostly dots at FL250 or so except for slower climbing heavies off LHR.

Military stuff more likley to be E/W to/from for Brize or Fairford when active. Again, type usually discernible by eye and for VC10 or Herc, by ear too.

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@Airbanda - understood.

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Now that it has been mentioned I saw the aircraft nearer the end of last week,the aircraft came over from the West and then banked South towards Luton/Stanstead,I am certain I saw four engines,T-tail and wingletsThanks for all the replies,interesting
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Has anyone put winglets on a Jetstar?
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The A/c in question was large,ie not a Gulfstream,Bombardier,Bizjet type,approx 100ft wingspan,100ft fuselage.
I definitely saw winglets and I am sure I saw a stack of four engines at the back.
Just wondering if Putin and his entourage's IL-62 has had an upgrade with winglets ie a one-off,but then the photo's say no to this!

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Has anyone put winglets on a Jetstar?
AFAIK, no aircraft type with 4 rear-mounted engines has ever been fitted with winglets.
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I saw both IL-62s depart Stansted while waiting for my flight - they definitely did not have winglets. Made a pleasant change from the ubiquitous Ryanair B738s!
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