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Qantas 380 In-Flight Engine Shutdown

Old 4th Nov 2011, 05:40
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Qantas 380 In-Flight Engine Shutdown

A year to the day since QF32 has a engine malfunction, another 380 has had to shutdown an engine in-flight.

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Old 4th Nov 2011, 05:50
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Any ideas on what the initial cause of the engine shut down was?
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Old 4th Nov 2011, 06:10
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BBC News quoting a Qantas spokesman - problem due to 'engine oil defect'. I suspect this may be the media latching on to a fairly mundane event.

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Old 4th Nov 2011, 07:23
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OW said it was an Oil Quantity Pressure problem
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Old 4th Nov 2011, 07:58
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I suspect this may be the media latching on to a fairly mundane event.
I'm sure you're right, but according to some reports Britain's chief luvvie and Twitterer in chief was on board, so don't expect the story to go away anytime soon.....
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From news.fail.au

"It is not clear yet what triggered the engine oil quality defect indicator that forced pilots to shut down the engine, but passengers were not expected to reboard the flight. A spokeswoman for the airline said the timing of the incident was unfortunate"

Damn that bad quality oil!
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I suspect this may be the media latching on to a fairly mundane event.
Not wishing to be picky but I consider a mundane event to be when I get on a scheduled flight and get off at the other end without anything going wrong.
The presumably rather experienced crew of this aircraft decided to shut down and engine and land as soon as practicably possible. That isn't a normal event no matter how blasé one wishes to appear about it. This, on a fairly new aircraft type which appears to have a bit of "previous" when it comes to unscheduled stops - particularly with this airline.
I am not in any way an apologist for some of the hyperbole appearing in the media but in fairness, I would say this event was fairly reported by the Beeb.
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Old 4th Nov 2011, 08:50
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It would be mundane if it were merely in inflight shutdown. I thought a 4 engine machine that shuts one engine down normally would continue to destination. And why not just land - looks like it held at FL100 at BUBIN for nearly an hour before making an approach. These 2 facts suggest (to me anyway) that there may be more to this than just an inflight shutdown.

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Old 4th Nov 2011, 08:57
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in fairness, I would say this event was fairly reported by the Beeb.
In the sense that none of the details are unnecessarily sensationalised, yeah. But I think...in the ideal journalistic world, an article about an in flight engine shut down for a Qantas A380 wouldn't begin with the words, "The actor and writer Stephen Fry was on a Qantas flight.."

When World War III breaks out or aliens invade, it'll be "The actor and writer Stephen Fry woke up this morning and was surprised to discover an unusual scene of smouldering destruction outside his window. He tweeted..."
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Old 4th Nov 2011, 09:07
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Never heard of bad quality oil before, on a flag carrier.

Is the maintenance in Malaysia still? Probably there they should do a inspection of what kind of oil they use. All engines infected then I suppose, of all aircraft being in maintenance. Dangerous stuff!

Still shocked the oz government forced Qantas up in the air... Imagine the atmosphere amongst crew. Well done to this crew of handling this problem despite everything going on around...
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"Britain's Chief Luvvie and Twitterer-in-Chief".

LOL. Love that description. You're right: since he's right on the spot, this thing isn't going away soon.
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Exactly one year after a Qantas A380′s
engine exploded over Indonesia,
another superjumbo has been forced
to divert due to engine trouble.
Flight QF31 from Singapore to London
was diverted to Dubai after an oil problem.
Pilots shut down the number four
engine of the Airbus A380 about 90
minutes after takeoff, Qantas
spokeswoman Olivia Wirth said.
Four pilots, 21 cabin crew and 258 passengers were on board.
The aircraft landed safely in Dubai
4.45am local time without further
incident, the airline said.
Celebrity Stephen Fry is believed to
have been one of the passengers on board QF31. He tweeted to his 3.3
million Twitter followers: “Bugger.
Forced to land in Dubai. An engine has
decided not to play.”
Fry is returning to London after touring
Australia with his TV program QI. It is a year to the day that flight QF32
from London to Sydney was forced to
turn back to Singapore after the A380′s
number two engine exploded, sending
fragments of the turbine disc and other
engine parts into the wing and fuselage.
The airline grounded all of its A380 jets
for several weeks after the incident.
The problem was eventually found to
have been caused by a leak from a
flawed oil pipe. Qantas said the engine explosion and
subsequent grounding of the fleet cost
it an estimated $80 million
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Old 4th Nov 2011, 10:32
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Is the maintenance in Malaysia still?

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Old 4th Nov 2011, 10:41
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The presumably rather experienced crew of this aircraft decided to shut down and engine and land as soon as practicably possible.
How do you know "land asap"?
When did the failure happen?
Maybe it happened 2 or 3 hours into the flight. That's just to early to make your destination on 3 (higher fuelflow due lower levels). And in DXB there happens to be another major A380 operator - in case you need spares - and lots of hotels and transfer flights.
My guess: they tried to make LHR and when it started to appear they couldn't make it, went for the best commercial en route (not many accommodate the beast).
So, unfortunate for the pax, but hey, these things happen. Not really a land ASAP event.
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Old 4th Nov 2011, 10:46
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Don't see how landing in Dubai would help with engine spares.


Doesn't Emirates use GE's on their's ?
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Who cares that Stephen Fry was onboard. He supports Norwich anyway!
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Old 4th Nov 2011, 11:13
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Golfyankeesierra,

Ironically, none of the above can be found in Dubai today. Meaning:

- Although frame maintenance is available at EK Engineering, EK don't use the RR engine on their A380's, so a replacement engine is not an option (although there is a Rolls-Royce office right behind EK's Engineering facility, so they will be able to assist with replacment coordination, if required);

- Today is the start of a five day long local holiday in the UAE, so all hotels in the city are full to bursting. Literally. Accommodating the interrupted pax will not be so easy, although there is some hotel capacity in smaller hotels and in nearby Sharjah;

- Also on account of above holiday, all scheduled flights out of Dubai are also pretty much full for the next few days. QF (supported on the ground in DXB by DNATA and oneworld's BA) will be able to squeeze people out via transit points in Europe on the likes of KL, AF and LH tonight, and perhaps on TK via IST. QR may also be able to assist on some loadout via Doha.

But, I guess what was of primary importance last night in the QF cockpit wasn't any of the above, but rather an A380-capable runway.
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Old 4th Nov 2011, 11:25
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What a wholly appropriate thread for "Spectators Balcony".

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A300Man, aaah that will be a nightmare for Qantas reps...
Shows the complicated logistics side of the A380!


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