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Flew a "jolly" in a "Frightner" in Borneo in 1964/5 RNZAF on a parafreight drop. Actually convinced a mate that the clamshell doors opened "in flight" and we binned the stuff out. When he mumbled something about drag, I pointed to the two dirty great [looking] donks and asked him just why it had two engines for its size
"Oh beggar, I never thought of that" he muttered....
"Oh beggar, I never thought of that" he muttered....
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From my sprog spotting days at Newcastle, Silver City Freighters flew the regular Isle of Man flights. I mostly remember them for their remarkable STOL performance, they were regularly airborne before they appeared over the 'hump' in the runway.
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One straight from the "horses" mouth so to speak.
Freddie Scott Chief Pilot of Instone was working into LHR one evening with a sick spey engine on board
Conversation was as follows
TWR "Maintain 160 to the marker"
'SU "Say again"
TWR "Maintain 140 to the marker please"
'SU " Repeat please "
TWR "Maintain 120 to the outer marker 28L please"
'SU "Getting closer- will maintain Vne to the marker"
So sayeth the man - Perhaps Heathrow Director could corroborate ?
Be lucky
David
P.S. Does any one know where Freddie Scott is these days. He ferried both Instone's Bristols from New Zealand to U.K.
P.P.S. Trivia point for today they both had their Prop and Engine controls colour coded red and green from their days with the R.N.Z.A.F.
Freddie Scott Chief Pilot of Instone was working into LHR one evening with a sick spey engine on board
Conversation was as follows
TWR "Maintain 160 to the marker"
'SU "Say again"
TWR "Maintain 140 to the marker please"
'SU " Repeat please "
TWR "Maintain 120 to the outer marker 28L please"
'SU "Getting closer- will maintain Vne to the marker"
So sayeth the man - Perhaps Heathrow Director could corroborate ?
Be lucky
David
P.S. Does any one know where Freddie Scott is these days. He ferried both Instone's Bristols from New Zealand to U.K.
P.P.S. Trivia point for today they both had their Prop and Engine controls colour coded red and green from their days with the R.N.Z.A.F.
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Prop and Engine controls colour coded red and green
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I remember EI-APC, Coventry-Dublin flogging along the old Blue1 from Wallasey to Point Lynas, and his estimate was waaay out.
Preston Centre "EPC, what is your ground speed?"
Irish accented voice "60kts"
EI-APC "It's a lie, we're doing 95 sor"
Preston Centre "EPC, what is your ground speed?"
Irish accented voice "60kts"
EI-APC "It's a lie, we're doing 95 sor"
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MK 32
I remember a flight on a Silver City Mk 32 - the three car carrier with the small pax cabin down the back. Noise was something else but also very noticeable was the side to side action on take off - the pax seats being under the rudder so to speak.
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Nice - is that a Hermes in the background?
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Yes, Hermes G-ALDT I believe.
I also think that this is Southend, the mound of earth visible between the two Freighters is quite distinctive & I have seen it in other pictures taken at the airport around that time. This would be circa 1962.
I also think that this is Southend, the mound of earth visible between the two Freighters is quite distinctive & I have seen it in other pictures taken at the airport around that time. This would be circa 1962.
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I have had trouble tracking down exactly where I took that picture as I was only a 6 year old at the time. Apparently the Hermes went to Stansted for scrapping.
How about this...
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An average morning at Lydd Ferryfield.
How about this...
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An average morning at Lydd Ferryfield.
I am hazarding a guess it is taken to the east of the established terminal, where the new terminal/railway station are being built, in the area in recent years used for storing jet aircraft. Taxiway to the 24 hold behind the freighter. The Hermes seems to under tow by a small tractor, heading west along 06/24. The trees on the horizon are up towards Rochford.
I passing, the last Freighter I saw airborne was presumably BISU (as it was the only one left), late 1980s. I was walking south down Regent Street in Central London and it appeared, heading west ever so slowly of course, pretty obviously on long finals for Heathrow, possibly on one of it's jet engine recovery trips.
What a joy for Heathrow ATC !
I passing, the last Freighter I saw airborne was presumably BISU (as it was the only one left), late 1980s. I was walking south down Regent Street in Central London and it appeared, heading west ever so slowly of course, pretty obviously on long finals for Heathrow, possibly on one of it's jet engine recovery trips.
What a joy for Heathrow ATC !
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Nice pictures Vino. I don't want to divert this thread but it looks to me as though the Hermes is being scrapped, outer wings missing etc. Most publications have it as scrapped at STN but some say Southend & since seeing your photo I now think it was indeed SEN.