Lufthansa A343 Diversion to Dubrovnik (Non Double Engine Failure?)
There is nothing fundamentally "wrong" with DBV but if it was indeed "smell of unknown origin" it seems like a peculiar choice. We obviously don't know their exact location at the moment they decided to divert but Italy, Zagreb / Croatia, Greece, Austria or even Germany might have been suitable.
Having been there plenty of times I can confirm that the picture is Dubrovnik and that LH certainly do not normally fly there with the A340. Judging by the webcam the weather was pretty nice.
Land at next suitable airport means just that. Wise advice when in doubt is get on the ground asap. Greece and Germany are not exactly close not to mention the high ground in between and the nearest italian airfields like Bari or Brindisi are not obviously more attractive to anyone who knows them well.
I do agree that the Croatian coastal airfields can be a nightmare when the Bora wind is blowing. But on a normal day it is an ideal diversion airfield, easy to find nice straight in ils from the north and a really nice city.
Land at next suitable airport means just that. Wise advice when in doubt is get on the ground asap. Greece and Germany are not exactly close not to mention the high ground in between and the nearest italian airfields like Bari or Brindisi are not obviously more attractive to anyone who knows them well.
I do agree that the Croatian coastal airfields can be a nightmare when the Bora wind is blowing. But on a normal day it is an ideal diversion airfield, easy to find nice straight in ils from the north and a really nice city.
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Huh? Can you enlighten us to the context/relevance of that rant...?
A 4-engined longhaul plane, not even an hour out of it's homebase, makes an intermediate landing at a, let's say, B-category airport.... there's obviously a very good reason.
Then A321 in his post starts flaming LH about being the "best" and with "disgusted" smileys. What's that got to do with it?
His dudeness adresses that and rightly so.
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what is your view then if the claims made by A321 were accurate. Should one post it, start a new thread or is that a theme nobody wants to see on pprune?
It's very easy to dismiss such claims but what does the aviation community gain as a whole by allowing such dismissal if the claims are true?
what is your view then if the claims made by A321 were accurate. Should one post it, start a new thread or is that a theme nobody wants to see on pprune?
It's very easy to dismiss such claims but what does the aviation community gain as a whole by allowing such dismissal if the claims are true?
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Smell of unknown origin (or so the rumour goes), land at nearest suitable field asap. I can't for the life of me think why any professional would have a problem with that.
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anyway it's very quite in the medias, ZERO. Just Another "good" LH censorship money instead of public interest....I know they are the Best, and bad stuffs happens only to the others
Apart from it being totally untrue (and I am not German, nor work there) it smells of either a big frustration or perhaps inappropriate nationalism.
But then, not being British, you'll get used to these qualifications quickly on this forum.
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honestly:
I thought my post was more than clear. But it amazes me to see, the outcome. Obviously some of our members here cannot read or not think or maybe none of both, or they wear LH-coloured-blinders
For shure our colleagues in this A343 had a f#&§$..ing good reason to go to DBV. They are professionals and qualified like all, well, most of us. They did a good job
For shure.
So going to a B or even C class airport like DBV, where you can almost see MUC from this position in the air. There must be something else than just a minor MASTER CAUTION. Something very, very severe.
Now my point again: the well-known
LH-way of communication to the medias and to the public in general. 
The general public has the right to be informed about such an incident.
Have to mention it again: in no single media, at least not in Germany and not even in the "blood-weeping" BILD newspaper you could find anything about this obviously very SEVERE incident.
How come ? - Why not ? - How much money did they pay ? - How many free tickets for all the overqualified
journalists did they issue ? So to turn back the clock and to make this incident undone. - At least for the general public.......I cannot eat that much I would like to.....
They always do their utmost to cover-up any not so good news. because: They are the Best and the $hit happens only to the others.
Almost every small stuff you can find in the medias, small HYD failure, inflight return to to maybe unruly pax....just really minor items.
Even if the wellknown "sack of rice" bursts somewhere in China this creates almost a mediahype. But now - obviously severe stuff - nothing.
Being a professional pilot I would really like to know the real reason behind this "emergency" diversion. Just for aviation related interest only.
Guess this is one of pprune paramount also.
And please, to some of our community members, please do not comment that this was just a "normal" diversion.
I thought my post was more than clear. But it amazes me to see, the outcome. Obviously some of our members here cannot read or not think or maybe none of both, or they wear LH-coloured-blinders
For shure our colleagues in this A343 had a f#&§$..ing good reason to go to DBV. They are professionals and qualified like all, well, most of us. They did a good job
For shure.So going to a B or even C class airport like DBV, where you can almost see MUC from this position in the air. There must be something else than just a minor MASTER CAUTION. Something very, very severe.
Now my point again: the well-known
LH-way of communication to the medias and to the public in general. The general public has the right to be informed about such an incident.
Have to mention it again: in no single media, at least not in Germany and not even in the "blood-weeping" BILD newspaper you could find anything about this obviously very SEVERE incident.
How come ? - Why not ? - How much money did they pay ? - How many free tickets for all the overqualified
journalists did they issue ? So to turn back the clock and to make this incident undone. - At least for the general public.......I cannot eat that much I would like to.....They always do their utmost to cover-up any not so good news. because: They are the Best and the $hit happens only to the others.
Almost every small stuff you can find in the medias, small HYD failure, inflight return to to maybe unruly pax....just really minor items.
Even if the wellknown "sack of rice" bursts somewhere in China this creates almost a mediahype. But now - obviously severe stuff - nothing.
Being a professional pilot I would really like to know the real reason behind this "emergency" diversion. Just for aviation related interest only.
Guess this is one of pprune paramount also.
And please, to some of our community members, please do not comment that this was just a "normal" diversion.
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...you probably mean BFU, do you ?
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Bundesstelle für Flugunfalluntersuchung
Die BFU hat die Aufgabe,......... schwere Störungen beim Betrieb von
Luftfahrzeugen in Deutschland zu untersuchen und deren Ursachen
zu ermitteln.
Luftfahrzeugen in Deutschland zu untersuchen und deren Ursachen
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Nothing wrong with DBV
Having been to it many, many times I can't see why anyone would think of diverting elsewhere if it was the closest, and suitable. While weather conditions could play a big part (think Ron Brown accident), it looks from the picture, that on the day of the incident the weather was acceptable.
The next closest would have been TIV but at 8,200' for the RWY he would have trouble getting out with passengers.
The next closest would have been TIV but at 8,200' for the RWY he would have trouble getting out with passengers.
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How long is this thread going to go on for ?
A lot to do about nothing
Crew made right decision No one injured A/C continued after investigation.
No problems
If we started a thread after every A/C landing with smoke or funny smell in Cabin the site would be full
A lot to do about nothing
Crew made right decision No one injured A/C continued after investigation.
No problems
If we started a thread after every A/C landing with smoke or funny smell in Cabin the site would be full
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...its good to have professionals like learjet on pprune.
A big A340-300 just departed from FRA to Addis Ababa lands in Dubrovnik
and our expert just says:
A big A340-300 just departed from FRA to Addis Ababa lands in Dubrovnik
and our expert just says:
No problem. ...landing with smoke or funny smell in Cabin...
