Wikiposts
Search
Spectators Balcony (Spotters Corner) If you're not a professional pilot but want to discuss issues about the job, this is the best place to loiter. You won't be moved on by 'security' and there'll be plenty of experts to answer any questions.

baby 737 intercepted

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 16th Jan 2011, 23:38
  #1 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Berkshire
Posts: 130
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
baby 737 intercepted

Just hearing news that a RAF Typhoon intercepted a Baby 737 over London last night after radio contact was lost. The aircraft was also forced to hold for identification before finally being allowed to land at Manchester, it's intended destination.
Red 69 is offline  
Old 16th Jan 2011, 23:48
  #2 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: UK
Posts: 243
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
And ??? Your point being ?
Smudger is offline  
Old 17th Jan 2011, 00:45
  #3 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Berkshire
Posts: 130
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
My point being that this is an aviation rumour and news website and this constitutes some aviation news. What content would you expect to see?
Red 69 is offline  
Old 17th Jan 2011, 03:31
  #4 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: SoCal-USA
Posts: 10
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Okay....I'll bite....whose 737 was it? Was it loaded with jihadists or what ?
Capt - Chaos is offline  
Old 17th Jan 2011, 04:31
  #5 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: any town as retired.
Posts: 2,182
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
The Typhoon

or A Typhoon, I am surprised that one manage to go operational.

Defending Manchester. Thats some challenge.

I bit. OK.

glf
Gulfstreamaviator is offline  
Old 17th Jan 2011, 05:28
  #6 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Australia
Age: 68
Posts: 715
Received 8 Likes on 3 Posts
Gulfstream

Maybe the one at Hendon is back in the air.
VR-HFX is offline  
Old 17th Jan 2011, 06:17
  #7 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Garden shed
Posts: 86
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Hi Capt - Chaos,

Baby refers to BMI Baby, a UK low cost operator.

Cheap flights to Europe with bmibaby.com

Pow-wow is offline  
Old 17th Jan 2011, 08:48
  #8 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Berkshire, UK
Age: 79
Posts: 8,268
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I'd be totally astounded if this was true...... so I wait patiently to be astounded.
HEATHROW DIRECTOR is offline  
Old 17th Jan 2011, 08:54
  #9 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: NW UK
Posts: 59
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
BMI48C apparently lost RT contact over the south Midlands and sparked a live QRA
Two Typhhons were launched and the a/c was intercepted as it made a wide orbit over the Midlands.

For some reason on loss of RT the 737 made a 90 degree turn onto west in the Leicester area ,across the airways.

The QRA sorti haled the a/c on guard , spotted that lights were on in the cabin and once the flight was back with ATC , abandoned the intercept.
Apparently the lead Typhoon came within 200 feet of the 737 , which I understand is normal procedure.


uksatcomuk is offline  
Old 17th Jan 2011, 09:23
  #10 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Berkshire, UK
Age: 79
Posts: 8,268
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Good Lord..... I am now totally astounded!! I bet the BMi Captain was busy typing for sometime afterwards..
HEATHROW DIRECTOR is offline  
Old 17th Jan 2011, 10:12
  #11 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 1999
Location: world
Posts: 3,424
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
What exactly astounded you HD? Intercepts following prolonged loss of R/T contact is quite the norm in my part of Europe. Or were you meaning something else?
Hotel Tango is offline  
Old 17th Jan 2011, 10:26
  #12 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Berkshire, UK
Age: 79
Posts: 8,268
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Well, I'd never seen it happen and the idea of fighter interceptions in busy airspace worries me somewhat. Show how things have changed since I retired.
HEATHROW DIRECTOR is offline  
Old 17th Jan 2011, 10:48
  #13 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Whitstable
Age: 73
Posts: 28
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
The grading for a current threat of a terrorist attack in this country is classed as 'severe'. An aircraft over or near a major city in the UK loses comms for what ever reason. Those in the know that have the power to launch a QRA did it by the book and all most of you can do is take the p$$$. Some of you have short memories.
Gentlemen, it's a rumour & news site. This is news and am I glad we are in safe hands!!
FRED WHELAN is offline  
Old 17th Jan 2011, 10:50
  #14 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: London down town
Posts: 85
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
almost a every day event heading down over France, aircraft out of contact for a few minutes. you hear the French controller try to call aircraft xxx, 5 mins later you hear them call on guard, followed by them giving you a turn onto heading xxx due military activity! by this time aircraft xxx contacted on guard and told he will be intercepted. Airline then gets big bill and French air force training budget covered!. Not that common in the UK but i believe the airline still gets the bill.
dhc83driver is offline  
Old 17th Jan 2011, 11:04
  #15 (permalink)  
Per Ardua ad Astraeus
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: UK
Posts: 18,579
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by HD
the idea of fighter interceptions in busy airspace worries me somewhat
- no wucking furries, mate - there are competent controllers looking after it all. You should be more worried about a hijacked 737 crashing into a midlands city?

Is this report of 'turning west across the airways' correct?

Sounds like a good job done by IAF (showing my age!) and Command - well done!
BOAC is offline  
Old 17th Jan 2011, 11:31
  #16 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Berkshire, UK
Age: 79
Posts: 8,268
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
<<Is this report of 'turning west across the airways' correct?>>

Where does that come into the UK radio failure procedures?
HEATHROW DIRECTOR is offline  
Old 17th Jan 2011, 11:36
  #17 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: southampton,hampshire,england
Posts: 866
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
It was text book from start to finish. The RAF response would put a Klingon Warbird to shame......couple of blinks and they were there. Everything by the book....superb.....well done all.
NO need for any other aircraft operator or passengers to be alarmed or even concerned.....a whole spectrum of carefully rehearsed procedures ensures safety throughout.
uksatcomuk: not exactly accurate, however I can say that the turn you describe was towards the very end of the situation, and was merely a descent manoeuvre to lose some height......and the A/C was completely separated from other traffic using standard ATC procedures.
055166k is offline  
Old 17th Jan 2011, 11:51
  #18 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Hanging off the end of a thread
Posts: 32,856
Received 2,814 Likes on 1,200 Posts
It was text book from start to finish. The RAF response would put a Klingon Warbird to shame
The way things are going, all the RAF will have left are Airfields full of "cloaked" Warbirds
NutLoose is online now  
Old 17th Jan 2011, 12:30
  #19 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: NW UK
Posts: 59
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Agreed 055166k , the left turn must have been on the instruction of ATC or the interceptor t 1950 as the Typhoons scrambled around 1930 and the BMI would have been just about to cross the N Sea to Southend around 1924 when it possibly lost contact with ATC.
uksatcomuk is offline  
Old 17th Jan 2011, 12:47
  #20 (permalink)  
Cool Mod
 
Join Date: Apr 1998
Location: 18nm N of LGW
Posts: 6,185
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Pretty well normal to me. However, cut out the snide remarks please.
PPRuNe Pop is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.