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Can pilots repair aircraft

Old 15th Dec 2010, 15:40
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Can pilots repair aircraft

Just wondering if a plane had a technical problem can the crew repair the aircraft if they know what to do or do they need extra qualifications
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Old 15th Dec 2010, 16:18
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Suggest you re-post this on Engineers and Technicians.
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Old 15th Dec 2010, 16:39
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Why the tongue stuck out? any need? , it takes more effort to be rude so why do it???
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Old 15th Dec 2010, 16:50
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No. It needs an adequately approved and licensed maintenance engineer
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Old 15th Dec 2010, 17:18
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Why the tongue stuck out? any need? , it takes more effort to be rude so why do it???
Well I'll be ........ I always thought this was a 'laughy thingy'.
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Old 15th Dec 2010, 17:29
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No they cant and long may it stay that way, I'm sure a beancounter somewhere thinks it's a great idea but the only way a pilot will be repairing an aircraft or rectifiying a defect LEGALLY will be if he is appropriately licensed and approved on that type - And I dont mean carrying out a CB reset....
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As a matter of interest, Pilots in my airline are authorised to complete some CFDS procedures on the A320. Where some MELs have Maintenance action which involve CFDS procedures, we also have an Alternative Procedure which allows suitably trained aircrew to complete it. Use of the procedure needs authorisation from Maintrol and needs to be annotated correctly in the tech log, and it's very handy for some of our out of the way destiantions which don't have maintenace support.

And it's not a ''get you home'' procedure either. We can dispatch from base knowing the CFDS procedure needs to be used on the transit check away from base. I find I end up using it about once a year. No other airline does this to my knowledge.
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Old 16th Dec 2010, 08:20
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Just wondering if a plane had a technical problem can the crew repair the aircraft if they know what to do or do they need extra qualifications
Sorry, just daydreaming, but I was trying to imagine a BA Captain, resplendent in his uniform, carrying a plumbers bag full of spanners on to his 777! However, donkeys years ago a Trident Captain I knew helped to scrape ice off the wings in Moscow.
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Old 16th Dec 2010, 09:02
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I can't speak for commercial airlines, but in my day in the RAF (60s and 70s), Senior NCOs could certify pilots to carry out certain servicing, if they had a problem and were stuck away from a RAF airfield.
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Old 16th Dec 2010, 10:48
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Don't know about pilots but I do know some cabin crew that do!
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Old 16th Dec 2010, 11:54
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Yes, they can. But exactly what they can do (and cannot do) depends on which register they're operating, i.e. FAA, CAA etc. and the information is to be found in the local legislation documents. Some larger operators will have this information in their Operations Manual. Generally speaking, pilots are restricted to relatively simple maintenance tasks such as changing a spark plug, changing a wheel or replacing a blown navigation light bulb etc.
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Old 16th Dec 2010, 12:32
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Depends on the aircraft as well. In commercial world then there's very little a pilot is allowed to do and is well detailed in the MEL (minimum equipment list). However if it's a homebuilt, well the pilot built it so i'm pretty sure he/she's allowed to do quite a bit to repair it.
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Old 16th Dec 2010, 12:42
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.... but I was trying to imagine a BA Captain, resplendent in his uniform, carrying a plumbers bag full of spanners on to his 777!
He would most likely fail at the first hurdle - getting the tools through security
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Old 16th Dec 2010, 13:13
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A roll of gaffer tape can fix most things
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Old 16th Dec 2010, 16:52
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Speed-tape seems to be able to fix most things!

Seriously, I would depend on what is wrong, plenty of reboot - computer and CB resets fix plenty of issues at times.
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Old 16th Dec 2010, 18:52
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Generally speaking, pilots are restricted to relatively simple maintenance tasks such as changing a spark plug, changing a wheel or replacing a blown navigation light bulb etc.
really.......... and when is changing a "spark plug" simple? A lot of pilots wouldnt know how to open a cowl on a more complex aircraft. Thats if they had to tools to do such a job just floating in the hold

Changing a wheel is simple as well? Where are they getting the spare wheel from? The jack, the torque wrench the splut pins..... or do they just float around in holds of aircraft as and when the pilot decides to fix it....
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Old 16th Dec 2010, 19:26
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I worked on a helicopter operation in the Middle East that required us to land and shut down on an offshore rig with only one helideck and was a two day round trip by boat otherwise.
The pilots underwent a short course of instruction on changing the igniter plug, should we fail to get a start on the rig, we carried the spare and the tools. The only other job we could do was top up the floats with air, should it be required.

Everything else was/is strictly engineers territory.
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Old 16th Dec 2010, 21:01
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Cool

Authorised and trained flight engineers could, if it was deemed a simple maintenance procedure required by an MEL, Although they could not sign the CRS. A pilot can not sign a CRS full stop.
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Old 16th Dec 2010, 21:42
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Sorry to sound thick, but what is CRS?
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Old 16th Dec 2010, 22:24
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I may be a bit unusual as a pilot in that I hold a part 66 maintenance licence so the answer is yes some pilots can fix aircraft.

The only problem is that the half brained slow witted security numptys don't let me take any tools on to the aircraft...................so I can't even do a phisical check of the fuel I have on the aircraft!

These days all I can do is give the maintenance guys the "heads up" on what has gone wrong so they have the correct kit with them to fix the problem.

Dont you just love the security people and the wisdom they have that lets us all sleep safe in bed at night.
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