Monarch Airbus Parked Outside Bmi Hanger Lhr
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We had a A321 & B757 divert in the other day.
They were trying to move them yesterday to LGW, but the problem has been LGW unable to accept them in the last few days.
One problem may be slots, need a take-off slot from LHR and a landing slot at LGW, reasonably close together.
They were trying to move them yesterday to LGW, but the problem has been LGW unable to accept them in the last few days.
One problem may be slots, need a take-off slot from LHR and a landing slot at LGW, reasonably close together.
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The Mayfield SIDs for positioning to Gatwick have a climb limit of 5,000 feet. I can't speak for the A320/321 but an empty Boeing 757 would reach that within a couple of miles, despite selecting climb thrust on landing gear retraction.
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Nicholas - it all depends on traffic and routing - it is not necessarily a 'short sector'! On a busy day you could be up to 14,000' and airborne for 30 minutes or more - I've been several times EGSS-EGKK in well over 40 minutes - and holding at TIMBA. I've also done EGHH-EGKK in both under 20 minutes and 1 hour.
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Both a 321 and a 757 are at the bmi hangar to use the warmth inside to melt the snow off the wings, tail and fuselage. There's such a shortage of deicing fluid at Heathrow at the moment that non Heathrow based airlines are last on the list of priorities to get use of this valuable fluid. Both of the aircraft would have left days ago if they could have cleared the Ice and snow.
(by the way ukdean, it's a hangar, not a hangar).
(by the way ukdean, it's a hangar, not a hangar).
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follow up question
Will the lack of airframe effect Spotties schedules..?
How quickly will LHR run out of fluid.?
Is this the wake up call for the IR / UV / solar (solor) powered de icing rigs.>
glf
How quickly will LHR run out of fluid.?
Is this the wake up call for the IR / UV / solar (solor) powered de icing rigs.>
glf
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BOAC- thanks for the info. Yes, I can imagine that it's not necessarily a straightforward trip and that you would be 'restricted' by the complex departure and approach patterns at those busy airports.
PS I enjoyed looking up the four-letter codes to see which airports you were referring to!
PS I enjoyed looking up the four-letter codes to see which airports you were referring to!
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For those interested in further information...
The Monarch Airbus ia an A321, G-OZBG, and I was the First Officer operating when the aircraft diverted into Heathrow on Tuesday night.
We had operated ex-Malaga, with the intended destination being Gatwick. When Gatwick's runway closed due to the snow, and with very few other UK airfields open, we ended up at Heathrow, landing at 22:56.
Having always wanted to fly into Heathrow, it was a little disappointing to only get visual with runway 09L as we crossed over the M25!
The Monarch Airbus ia an A321, G-OZBG, and I was the First Officer operating when the aircraft diverted into Heathrow on Tuesday night.
We had operated ex-Malaga, with the intended destination being Gatwick. When Gatwick's runway closed due to the snow, and with very few other UK airfields open, we ended up at Heathrow, landing at 22:56.
Having always wanted to fly into Heathrow, it was a little disappointing to only get visual with runway 09L as we crossed over the M25!
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Spotties
Stupid question to many on here I'm sure, but as Chris Tarrant says it's only easy if you know the answer. So I have to ask the audience, why is Monarch known as "Spotties?"
Thanks in anticipation!
Thanks in anticipation!
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poker, most of the fun at LHR is taxying round the place, not trying to make yourself look like some 'country bumpkin' getting lost! (Memories of BD sub-charters and before that Air Malta.) Did Luton Ops. burst into tears when you told them where you were diverting?
For the answer to the 'Spotty M' thing, take a look at the fin.
For the answer to the 'Spotty M' thing, take a look at the fin.
I reckon Heathrow isn't the only place where you can look like a bumpkin if you're not used to it. In the days before 2001 when I was staff and a jump seat was sometimes the only way of getting A to B I can remember several crews getting off a runway at a range of airports and then fumbling for ground charts as they tried to work out where to go.
And there was a rather memorable occasions when we were heading for a stand (call it 218 - it was somewhere along the line between T1 and T3 at LHR I can't remember the actual number) and as we began to turn the copilot said "Why's he waving at us?" and there was a batsman in 218B (which was where it turned out we were supposed to be). Even the locals can get it wrong occasionally!
And there was a rather memorable occasions when we were heading for a stand (call it 218 - it was somewhere along the line between T1 and T3 at LHR I can't remember the actual number) and as we began to turn the copilot said "Why's he waving at us?" and there was a batsman in 218B (which was where it turned out we were supposed to be). Even the locals can get it wrong occasionally!
'nough said
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Yes, following the greens (and stopping at the reds) is a great help, not only at LHR, of course. The taxi chart also looks a lot less cluttered since they did away with the block-numbering system.
