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Old 23rd Sep 2008, 17:25
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B727 carrying 229 pax

Wheelchair on plane bursts into flames

Must be extended version.......
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B727 carrying 229 pax
Wheelchair on plane bursts into flames

Must be extended version.......
Must be a typo
First Choice operates 757's and 767's and an unassorted mix of Airbusses.
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i was there, it was a FCA 757, the wheelchair started sparking in the hold of the aircraft, so they ramp guys had to act fast. They put the wheelchair onto the belt and drove it away from the aircraft, the fire crew came shortly afterwards.

The ramp guys got praise and some free holidays from the chairman of thomson.

great work.


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Old 23rd Sep 2008, 17:53
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Don't they require disconnect and/or isolate the battery before accepting for cargo hold?
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yes they do, it was disconnected, hence the sparks. the loaders in spain got a good telling off for it.
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Boy are you guys dumb! Ever heard of the 727-200D...thing holds 250 pax
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Why are they dumb? If you read the message, FCA don't own any 727's, they only have 757's and 767's. Now who looks dumb?
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Old 23rd Sep 2008, 21:48
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Not all wheelchairs require the battery to be disconnected. If the battery is a non-spillable type then disconnection is not required. Disconnection can sometime cause more problems.
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Boy are you guys dumb! Ever heard of the 727-200D...thing holds 250 pax
Which Boys?

Why are they dumb?

And a 747 400 holds 416 typical

But what has that got to do with the typo and the FCA 757 mentioned here?

Unless you mean the press getting the incorrect aircraft type, in which case, crack on.... yes very Dumb.
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Been there, done that...

World Airways - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
On March 29, 1975, World operated the last airlift flight out of Da Nang, Vietnam, an event that made world news. Two 727s were flown to Da Nang, one of which landed with Daly aboard. Thousands rushed the airplane and it took off on a taxiway under heavy fire. The aircraft with Daly aboard started its takeoff roll with the 727's back stairs still down with Daly fending off additional people trying to leave due to over capacity. (At one time there existed a film of this taken from someone inside the aircraft) When the airplane landed at Saigon, they estimated there were over 330 people on board.
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Yes, but no elec wheelchair I assume and those vietnamese people seem more tiny than the average brit
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727-200 Pax

The Y Class capacity of a 727-200 is 189 passengers.
With the 2 seats they removed near the overwing exits, remained 187 seats.
That is as high a configuration I have flown with the 727...
They all reclined at the same time, or bruised their noses.
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For info, the shorter 727-100 was certificated for 131 passengers.
I remember flying some with 129 very unhappy tourists.
The less they paid, the more they bitched (especially if from New Joyzee).

Happy contrails
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Yeah, nice plane. Now I'm a bus driver
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wow, hadn't seen that video for a long time.

YouTube - World Airways-Last Flight from Da Nang
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The World flight is even more remarkable as they didn't have the extended 200 type - it was an original 727-100, the cert for 131 passengers model.
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wow, is this the most overloaded aircraft in terms of pax ?

makes me wonder how many people could be shoe horned into an A380......
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Pax capacity

In an emergency evacuation situation if there is no baggage or freight, and just enough fuel to get to nearest safe country, it is then up to the max usable load. No one said anything about them all sitting down, and if it is a desperate situation, certification kinda takes a bit of a back seat.
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Amazing video, thanks for the link. Kind of unique for youtube the comments are a reasonable mix of opinions without much of the constant stupidity.

I was impressed to see the young F/A helping men (actually deserters to all effects), seating them orderly. On the other hand, the crew had got to deal with the situation they were in, leave with these men instead of women and children as it was supposed to be, or don't leave at all. An unique piece of reporting journalism also.
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Strudders and CornishFlyer,

I'm well aware that the airline doesn't operate 727's. The 722D doesn't exist. I guess it was a bad joke- referencing the high capacity 747-400D

PS. They also have some Airbii Cornish
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On Christmas Eve 1974 Cyclone Tracy devastated the city of Darwin in northern Australia. It killed around 50 people and either destroyed or severely damaged 70% of the buildings in the city. All essential services such as communication, water, power were disabled and the threat of disease and starvation loomed. The government decided to act swiftly and ordered a mass evacation. Over the course of the following week in a combined effort by the Australian Air Force and national airlines almost 25,000 people were evacuated from Darwin.

During the airlift a Boeing 747-200 operated by Qantas set a new world record by transporting 673 passengers on a single flight from Darwin to Sydney. The passengers were mainly women and children (2 per seat in several cases). This record was eventually dwarfed by another jumbo jet.
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