Routes That Dont Exist But Could Be Proiftable To An Airline

[TwinAisle]

It's still cannibalisation!

This thread really is cloud cuckoo land, I'm afraid. How about sending it to Spotters' Corner?

[JulietNovemberPapa]

Yes, Rigas Doganis’ books are very good and are, I believe, fundamental aviation management reading. I have 38 aviation management books and counting, and his are certainly some of the best. However, they really ought to be updated more frequently to ensure relevance and usability. Nevertheless, essential reading.

[globetrotter2]

LGW to MUC

I second Gatwick to Munich. Since BA pulled out of this busy route, there is no way to get to anywhere in this entire region without going to Heathrow, London City or Stansted - a long, complex journey from south and south east of London by public transport.

There's business all year round, skiing in the winter, holiday travel in summer and MUC is increasingly a hub for onward destinations.

[AI101]

BA LHR - AMD 767/777 DAILY UPGRADE TO 747 IN WINTER
VS LHR - AMD A340 / 747 DAILY

Only Air India flies this route at the moment as Jet Airways puuled this route last year due to aircraft being req'd on other routes through BRU.

Big demand for this flight.

[Golf Charlie Charlie]

I like the LHR/LCY oyster card service idea. Better, let's have an M25 beating service LHR/LTN/STN/LCY/LGW/LHR service round the clock, both directions.

[jongeman]

LGW to MUC

Surprising that there's no connection between south of London and Munich. Perhaps one for EZY.

MAN

Gaping holes in MAN's long-haul network too numerous to mention, there are quite a few destinations I think could be profitable, given the right aircraft and fuel cost! Delhi, Mumbai, Bangkok, Hong Kong, Dhaka to name a few. At least we're seeing Tel Aviv and Gibraltar back on the departure boards again.

Also we no longer have Berlin, Venice, Pisa, Warsaw or Krakow. Geneva in the summer is another one to look forward to.

[DispExt]

LBA to Frankfurt, Wawsaw, Gdansk, Malta (scheduled), Dubai, London City and perhaps Croatia somewhere

[Jet22]

LBA To FRA would work but would have to be provided by LH not anyone else because then that is when it wouldnt work. This would be intresting because if they did they would go up againt the KL LBA-AMS route. Both of these routes have the option to work because most of the LBA-AMS passangers are connecting

LBA to WAW would have to be provided by a LCC. Maybe LS or even Wizz Air. Not Sure

A Few that i know wouldnt work because they are provided over the pennines are DXB(Why have it at LBA when an hour down the road you have 2 daily services) MLA because there is only enought demand for A A320 Charted A/C.

A Few I Would like to see:

LBA to MUC(Provided by LH if the FRA route is a great success)
LBA to ARN(BD they already serve CPH)

[Daza]

Some routes local to me that have either been tried or certainly could have potential are;

Birmingham-Mumbai now TATA have taken over Land Rover and Jaguar.
Birmingham-Chicago maybe a long shot due to Oil and state of US Airlines.
Birmingham-Any Berlin Airport should be considered by BE/LH/WW/FR
Birmingham-Stockholm Arlanda (FR are to commence NYO this month) Birmingham-Athens has been operated before and was well supported.
Birmingham-Istanbul was being planned by TK but all has gone quiet.
Birmingham-Dhaka certainly there would be large local community support.
Birmingham-Middle East destination Ethiad have mentioned BHX.
Birmingham-Orlando/Florida BHX has only 1 SFB flight per week.

East Midlands-Pakistan
East Midlands-India certainly the communities could support BHX and EMA with sub continent services.
Just my thoughts
Daza

[MAN Guy]

What about MAN-Moscow with SU 2x or 3x weekly. Could be potentially high-yielding as they would be only operator on the route flying all those wealthy Russian business types to and from Manchester, also providing a good direct link for business traffic heading eastwards......good days / times of operation could also appeal to the more discerning city break crowd (!) Would be a nice addition to their recently set up freight operation at MAN......one can but hope for a full SU return to MAN!

[jamesp]

oh well might as well join in.... how about cvt to any of the canaries with a a320 or 757

[Jet22]

CVT to TFS/LPA/ACE would have to be done by a 320 not a 75 and would have to be charterd.

TOM tired a 757 at LBA (simlar ciy size to CVT) and the 757 barley made it past 75% full that is why all charters are now 320 and below. So i think that it would work only it would have to be provided by one the charter companys for the summer season only.

MAN-CAI anyone?
MAN-IAD maybe?
MAN-YYZ possible?

[comet 4b623PW]

Since we are into the realms of fantasy South East Regional Airways (known as British Airways in some parts of the country).

Morning departures from Birmingham and Manchester to Dubai using Boeing 777's, arrive within minutes of each other. Use Dubai as a mini hub, send aircraft onwards, one to Hong Kong the other to Singapore.

Base another 777, (yes another) to fly from Manchester to cities in Pakistan ie Islamabad, Karachi and Lahore.

Two Boeing 767 to North American destinations MAN-JFK & MAN-LAX.

Finally use a Boeing 757 for BHX-JFK and purchase Flybe Birmingham & Manchester orginating routes.

Oh! then perhaps it could call itself British Airways especially if it started some Scottish routes as well.

[PPRuNe Pop]

I think we thought that this thread might achieve something.....but, alas, no. It is nothing more than a fantasy vehicle for those who wish to play at running airlines. Reality is one thing, virtuality is quite another!

It is going to spotters but not for long.

AA&R Mods.

[Skipness One Echo]

Well we have a winner for most unlikely to happen plan then !

[Jet22]

Wasnt me who was fantasising infact i came up with some sensiable suggestions so now that everyone if really going on about fantasty well here we are

If things wasnt in the climate they are i wouldnt mind seeing BA start things up from Nrothern Irealand with maybe a few domestic to start with and a few international. A319/A320.

Then move onto the usual international(FRA/MUC/CDG/AMS/MAD/
BCN/LIS/FCO/MXP/GVA/ZRH/NCE/ATH/IST/LCA/AGP/ALC/TFS/ACE) with 320's and 321's and start Long Haul (basing 777-2 at BFS).JFK/IAD/SFO/
LAX/ORD/DXB. There we are.
Also while there at it start up ops from MAN GLA and EDI. Maybe call the nothern part of there ops Northern Airways and run it as they ran GB. All A/C in same livery except Uniform/Salarys/Magegmant is all ran under someone else.

[The SSK]

If you spotters want to play at being airline managers, you might like to do a bit of research. There are websites out there which are run by professionals for professionals which include real airports touting for business on real routes.

One of them spams me regularly, I have no association with it, but if the mods will let it pass its name is 'anna' dot 'aero'.

Neither airports nor airlines are oblivious to new route opportunities, believe me.

[britmuc]

LGW to MUC

I second Gatwick to Munich. Since BA pulled out of this busy route, there is no way to get to anywhere in this entire region without going to Heathrow, London City or Stansted - a long, complex journey from south and south east of London by public transport.

There's business all year round, skiing in the winter, holiday travel in summer and MUC is increasingly a hub for onward destinations.

I agree .... bring it back, most definately demand for this service!

[OliWW]

Thomsonfly still use a EMA based B752 to LBA quite a bit this summer, I think theres a ALC, CFU, and 2x PMI which they use a B752 on... I may be wrong, But im defentally sure for ALC and CFU

[Mooncrest]

OliWW,

The LBA ThomsonFly flights this summer are non-based 737-800s. Don't know where they are based. Could be East Midlands or Doncaster.