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Oh No! Its St Maarten time again

Old 19th Jul 2006, 21:46
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Well, I didn't see the aircraft land but I did see it's skid marks. The mains touched down approximately 100 feet before the threshold...

Too make this a little more interesting, the PAPI's were malfunctioning that day and giving erronious readings!!!!
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Old 20th Jul 2006, 01:03
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Originally Posted by Beanbag
I wouldn't mind betting that parallax / depth compression from a long lens are making this look worse than it was.
There are no shortage of photos on the net from different positions showing this very landing. The aircraft is clearly lower over the fence than normal landings would normally be over the piano keys.
Originally Posted by DHC6tropics
...the PAPI's were malfunctioning that day and giving erronious readings!
I'm no expert at all, but I though PAPIs were purely optical. How can they give erroneous readings (if they hadn't been misaligned)?
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Old 20th Jul 2006, 14:44
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yes, somehow they became misaligned...and for a day or two the Tower left them on even though pilots (including myself) were telling them that they were wrong.
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Old 20th Jul 2006, 16:00
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PAPI's can easily become mis-aligned by jet wake.
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Old 21st Jul 2006, 09:20
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pass the threshold at 50ft?

what is going on here? Pass the threshold at 50 ft .. hmmm.. is that 50ft from the flightdeck or the gear or the middle of the aircraft...
anyway this is way too early landing in my opinion



http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1078774/L/

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Old 21st Jul 2006, 11:27
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Ahhhhhhh!!

Another classic St Maarten shot

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Old 21st Jul 2006, 11:42
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St Maarten

Theres a couple of different photos of this landing. On this one you see theres actually a beach just there, haha.
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Old 21st Jul 2006, 12:23
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It is obviously 'silly season' again and you have all forgotten how to use 'Search'.

I have combined a few Spectators' threads here.

There are several other threads on St Maarten spread around in other forums.
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Old 21st Jul 2006, 23:14
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This can't be safe?

Spectacular? yes.
Safe? surely not?
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Old 21st Jul 2006, 23:48
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I would not care if it is safe or not I would love to stand there when a 747 comes in, is it st martin.

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Old 22nd Jul 2006, 01:22
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Originally Posted by magpienja
I would not care if it is safe or not I would love to stand there when a 747 comes in, is it st martin.

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agreed, but its a bit nuts when its so close you can almost touch it! scary, but a hell of a rush I'd expect!
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Old 22nd Jul 2006, 01:26
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KLM landing at St Maarten

Tea and buiscuits with the chief pilot, surely!?

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1078027/M/
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1078774/M/
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Old 22nd Jul 2006, 01:37
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They don't seem all too short in the second pic, though I bet those fence huggers thought differently.
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Old 22nd Jul 2006, 01:39
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Hope he was on TA rather than RA when the photo ship went into formation! But there again it might be a photo montage!
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Old 22nd Jul 2006, 01:52
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Considering the touchdown zone will well past the piano keys I reckon they look b****y short in the second picture, must have been pretty close to taking out that fence with the wheels.
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Old 22nd Jul 2006, 02:29
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They certainly did NOT cross the fence at 50 feet, now did they


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Old 22nd Jul 2006, 02:37
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or it might just be taken from an angle that would make the 747 appear very low? There's thousands of piccies from St. Marteen like that, btw. Neat-ish
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Old 22nd Jul 2006, 03:50
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what a ripping short-fielder! congrats fellas, thats impressive (and only slightly illegal).
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Old 22nd Jul 2006, 05:08
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One of our pilots landed a tad short of the threshold of our most critical runways and ended up back at the training center. Wonder if they did.
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Old 22nd Jul 2006, 06:01
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What I would like to know is, from what were these photos taken from ???

Tall building , helicopter.......I know a zoom lens was probably used but so close to the approach and above.....Is there high ground overlooking the app?

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