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HOVIS 28th February 2025 01:10

How to Shutdown the Deniers.
 
If, like me, you often come across people, either on line or in person, who constantly deny the moon landings ever happenrd, next time show them this...

HOVIS 24th March 2025 11:26


A much overlooked mission. Conrad and Bean went on to command Skylab. Has anyone tried to deny how the first crew to dock had to salvage a damaged station with a procedure that had never been rehearsed in training?
Yes, they all just say it's done with green screen/CGI in a swimming pool.
The Skylab2 mission was delayed for ten days while the crew trained up on the new procedures required to deploy a heatshield parasol and release the remaining solar panel that had got jammed during launch. The other main solar panel had been torn off with the original heatshield during launch.
So, not quite accurate to say they never rehearsed or trained for it.
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Deep Throat 24th March 2025 11:45

An incalculable spin off of the Space Race, is that the US and Russia didn't go to war with their other rockets - it is difficult to say how many casualties there were - probably in the low hundreds due to mostly 'normal' industrial accidents

Would 'we' have GPS if they had not gone to the moon?

wiggy 24th March 2025 12:36


Originally Posted by HOVIS (Post 11853255)
Yes, they all just say it's done with green screen/CGI in a swimming pool.
The Skylab2 mission was delayed for ten days while the crew trained up on the new procedures required to deploy a heatshield parasol and release the remaining solar panel that had got jammed during launch. The other main solar panel had been torn off with the original heatshield during launch.
So, not quite accurate to say they never rehearsed or trained for it.

Agreed, article here on it including mention of neutral buoyancy training…

Skylab 2…”We Fix Anything….”



what next 24th March 2025 13:01


Originally Posted by Deep Throat (Post 11853264)
Would 'we' have GPS if they had not gone to the moon?

Yes. Navigation was one of the first practical applications proposed for spaceflight, e.g. in Goddard's 1918 paper "The Ultimate in Precision: The Rocket in Interplanetary Navigation". So it is no surprise that the first satellite constellation for navigation, "Transit", was developed starting in 1958, three years before John F. Kennedy announced the manned lunar program. One might even argue that GPS would have come a decade earlier if all the good dollars hadn't been burnt in the Apollo program ;-)

tdracer 24th March 2025 17:43

Given that there are spacecraft orbiting the moon today that have taken photos of the Apollo landing sites (the LEM and footprints clearly visible) it's pretty amazing that anyone still claims that the landings were fake (although I heard one claim that those were done more recently, although not being able to explain why we would have done something like that).
But the one response that I've always been able to silence a landing denier with is to ask them why - if the landings were fake - the Russians went along with it. The Russians were perfectly capable of tracking the spacecraft headed to the moon, as well as intercepting any radio communications between Houston and the Apollo/LM. The Russians even going so far as to launch a spacecraft intended to land on the moon and return a sample at the same time as Apollo 11 (it crashed on the moon).

HOVIS 24th March 2025 18:33

The Soviets were in on it! 😁
It's the Lizard people illuminati you see.

51bravo 25th March 2025 08:53

But the modern photographs are still that: photographs. And CGI is perfectionised to the single pixel out of millions, and now with AI enhancement ... today you even more cant trust anything presented on screen or paper! Can you trust your own eyes? Well I bet .... its just signals to the brain :}

fitliker 30th March 2025 17:53

The moon is fake . You’re not one of those people that still believes in the moon are you ?
Do not believe your lying eyes .


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