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Cyberstreak 12th May 2009 11:51

Here's a nice clip

YouTube - Cart stuck in plane engine-5-11-2009

CS

old-timer 12th May 2009 11:58

oops !
 
oops ! - maybe if it got wedged at low idle & didn't get in as far as the fan it'll be just a blade / core inspection & cowl repair - (unlikely I know but optimistic is my middle name !)

Max noise 12th May 2009 12:43

Hey - whats the problem? It seems to be a LA baggage cart in a JL engine. All part of the same OW alliance...

Dairyground 12th May 2009 23:12


If seen these containers beeing blown over ramp areas during strong wind conditions or by jetblast... and if they come close to a running jet engine, they become a perfect plug
Not so much a perfect plug as a square peg in a round hole.

LA318 13th May 2009 01:30

Some pictures...

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/929...yphone026d.jpg

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/5047/jlpic1l.th.jpg


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Flight: JL061
Date: 11MAY
A/C Reg: JA8922
Place: LAX
Time: Around 1340L
Taxiway: On " C "
Occurred: Pass " C10 " before " P "

Aircraft clear to push back from gate 101 into taxiway " C " with tail East.
Tower instructed for taxi on " C " and turn right on " P "

PIC 1
One "LAN" container sucked into JL number one engine after JL passed " C10 "

PIC 2
JL061 under tow and was instructed left turn on " Q1 "
Mechanic forgot to insert nose gear pin := and breaks the tow-bar. Passengers deplane on taxiway " P "

silverelise 13th May 2009 07:10

The papers I read today are reporting the incident as a "mistake by the captain who didn't realise there was a problem until state troopers chased the aircraft down the taxiway and stopped it". :oh:

keel beam 23rd May 2009 04:57

I am surprised the engine did not surge and spit the container out. Must be well and truly wedged in!

TurningFinals 27th May 2009 15:03

You'd be surprised at how light those ULD's are. In a breeze they are like sails if they are not secured.

OutOfRunWay 23rd June 2009 11:45

Effects?
 
Hmm, never done a "sucked up baggage container" situation in the sim..

CF-6 dont use EPR as primary indication, do they? I wonder what the display on the flight deck would show, severely reduced N1 and a very high EGT, providing the containter is not actually stuck in the fan, and the fan can still rotate?

Probably good luck it got stuck at an angle and did not get sucked up cleanly, there would have been large bits of container going through the engine.

leewan 9th August 2009 15:13

Kinda of late, but when they were towing this a/c back to the terminal, the towing crew forgot to put in the bypass pin and causing the towbar to shear and the damage the NLG and a wheel to be cut. Imagine the a/c would have :{


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