No judge or magistrate in England and Wales uses a gavel in court - ever!
That's the Americans, you see. |
Well done FL.
Very impressive for sure. I hope you can retain your clarity of thought, expression and overall sanity in your new role. All the best. |
Well Done
Many Congratualtions Tudor,
All the Best, CRAN :ok: |
Look at them all, kissing up to hizzoner! Just in case, I suppose.
Case - geddit? Oh, never mind. And spare a thought for how lonely poor bjcc is going to be now. Seriously, though - Congratulations, FL! :ok: |
Nice one Tudor - many congratulations :ok:
Cheers S |
Congratulations, Tudor :ok:
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Well done, HH Judge Owen I look forward to reading your judgments. :ok:
Rat 5, You raise a good and valid point, but FL has been known to - and his achievements much admired by - the PPRuNe community for some years now. |
HHJ Flying Lawyer
Heartiest congratulations, Tudor.
How choice to have a man of conviction (!) and common sense on the Bench. Very well deserved. ......................but what do we half-wits do now if we need a hand ? As suggested, new callsign ? :ok: |
Tudor, very many congratulations on your well earned appointment.
We really are honoured to have you amongst the Rotorheads community I know that you will keep your keen humour and sense of fair play when you are Sitting. Just go easy on the barristers! FLI |
< doffs cap respectfully
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Snaresbrook is, I believe, the largest court complex in the country, dealing with everything from naughty little toerags to some of the most dangerous people in the country. I've done jury service there three times and thoroughly enjoyed the two or three week escape from work on each occasion. I reckon I'm about due for another summons and will certainly make an effort to see our old friend ensconced on the bench.
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Tudor
Congratulations on your appointment. Gary |
Congratulations Tudor, well done.
Are you still able to do defence work as well? (Hopefully never need your services though!) |
Who's going to keep the Campaign Against Aviation honest now?
A Magistrate writes about His Honour's appointment: He is a long way from the judicial stereotype, being a qualified pilot of helicopters and fixed wing aircraft and an expert aviation lawyer. He has regularly come out on top in courtroom tussles with the Civil Aviation Authority. Last time I heard, he had a part share in a WW2 aeroplane and a Gazelle helicopter, but if he has to live on his salary, they may have to go! He is also a devotee of fast cars and fast driving - the latter may also have to go. |
As we wander through life, we sometimes run into a person that makes the trip a bit more enjoyable. Our man FL is just one of those rare folks that stand out amongst the crowd. I consider it an honour to have been allowed to know him and have the distinct pleasure to have shared a cockpit with him.....my last helicopter flight actually.
All the best in his new endeavour...."it's your Honor" now.:D:D |
I've never been part of a discussion that you have sir, but every post I've seen of yours I've regarded somewhere between respect and awe.
Cap doffed. |
Lemming-like, I hasten to add my congratulations to all of those above. Every now and again the Establishment does something of which all right-thinking citizens can heartily approve!
I only met you once and sat enthralled by your gentle lecture that expanded our understanding of the Law and the CAA...... Best Wishes, Your Honour. I fear that the nom-de-plume Flying Lawyer will not grace this forum again and I understand why this might be so, but we will be the poorer for it, and I thank you for sharing your wisdom and experience with us. Soft Landings! Ripline |
Congratulations Flying Lawyer
JUDICIAL APPOINTMENT HM The Queen has appointed Tudor Wyn Owen to be a Circuit Judge on the advice of the Lord Chancellor. The Lord Chief Justice has assigned him to the South Eastern Circuit, based in Snaresbrook Crown Court London with effect from Monday 29 October 2007. His Honour Judge Owen is 56. He was called to the Bar in 1974. He was appointed as a Recorder on the South Eastern Circuit in 1991. You'll be missed around here, Tudor. Well done again and best of luck in your new appointment. :ok: |
Pfft!
Already we're all mere mortals - hasn't even bothered to acknowledge this thread, has the new Judge. Looking down on us all, he is! :} |
THE FLYING JUDGE
...doesn't that sound good! NO copyrights attached - go for it! 3top:cool: |
I have read and learned from your many sage and learned posts, and am now toasting your success. Sober as a lord, my judge! :} :)
Kev. |
Great news, but now that he is a fully fledged Judge he will be subject to the scrutiny of the press and the public gaze; and the heavy duties and responsibilities of his new job mean that sadly for us we will no longer have the benefit of his eloquent and learned posts here in JB. You'll be missed around here, Tudor. Well done again and best of luck in your new appointment |
doffs cap respectfully Congratulations. |
Granite Monolith
By coincidence, someone accused me of ‘looking down’ on him only a few weeks ago – a defendant with a long history of mental health problems facing trial for murder. He added, as he dispensed with my services, that I was useless – which some might say showed that his mental health problems weren’t quite as severe as the medics thought. (He was, in due course, convicted of murder.) I see you haven't posted much. I hope in time you enjoy PPRuNe as much as I have. Thank you all so much for your (far too) generous comments; they’ve meant a lot to me. After two years flying Chipmunks in the University of London Air Squadron (when the picture posted by BEagle was taken), it was a difficult choice between continuing with my original plans and applying to the RAF. Although I've loved my time at the Bar, I think I would have been just as happy as a professional pilot. Luckily, my aviation practice has enabled me to combine both interests - although I can't help notice that friends who went the RAF-BA route have either recently retired on handsome pensions or will do so in the next few years so maybe I made the wrong choice. ;) Being sacked by that defendant deprived me of finishing my career at the Bar with one final murder trial, and meant a case I did in a magistrates court the previous week turned out to be my last. However, for various reasons, I wasn’t disappointed by that. It brought back memories of cutting my teeth around the mags courts more than 30 years ago - a challenging experience for young counsel learning how to defend - and, best of all, we demolished the prosecution witnesses' allegations, won the case and were awarded costs. The thrill was as great as winning my very first case all those years ago - and with the added satisfaction that the client was a professional pilot accused of low flying (in a Hunter). I’m going to miss cross-examining witnesses. Sir George Cayley (post #11), obviously knows about the case - and that I had a very enjoyable 45 minutes in the Hunter a few weeks later. :) I’ve learnt a great deal from PPRuNe over the years which has not only helped my learn more about flying but, on occasions, helped me in aviation litigation cases. I’ve always found professional pilots to be extremely generous with their time when I’ve wanted help, and if I’ve managed to put something back into the pot in legal threads, it's only a small contribution compared with what I've been given. Sadly, one of the consequences of the new job is that I won’t be able to post about legal matters again. I’ve enjoyed taking part in PPRuNe, and I’m going to miss it. Thanks again for your very kind comments. FL |
well done that man
An honour to know you FL.
Is it true that you have NEVER lost to the CAA? KMB01 |
He may not be able to post, but I bet he'll be lurking!;)
Congratulations, thank you for your wisdom over the years and I wish you all the best.:ok: |
Congratulations FL - well deserved.
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FL,
It's a shame that you'll no longer be able to post about legal matters - to people like me (non legal) your clear interpretation of the points of law, regardless of whether you agree with them, has been enlightening. Hopefully, you'll still be able to contribute, and have some fun, but under the "Flying Judge" moniker. Good luck. V |
Very Well Done
Very well done Tudor, fantastic achievement.
Best regards, Bill |
You learn something new every day.
Well Done Tudor!!!!:ok::ok::ok::ok::ok: Congratulations!!!!:ok::ok::ok::ok::ok: |
Many congratulations Tudor, at least you get to spend your time in Court sitting down now. :ok::ok:
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Transatlantic congratulations.
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Congratulations, Flying Lawyer! Albeit more modest achievement, i just got my quantum physiscs exam out of the way. Nearly a certified physicist, as well as chartered engineer.
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Well, I guess if one is going to be 'outed' on Jet Blast, this type of announcement beats many other scenarios....................
Well done, sir! |
Not the first time I have thanked FL online, but his unsolicited, wise and free counsel to me at a time of anguish will not be forgotten.
Congratulations, sir. |
A well deserved elevation for one whose objectivity and dogged research has done so much to support aviation law in the United Kingdom, against those who would use it for their political advancement.
On a personal note, make it a goal to fly as many different helicopters as you can. It's a tip I got from pprune and it is amazingly accurate in its perception of the wealth of knowledge and skills that you will gain from each type. |
Ok, congrats .... but could somebody please enlighten me, how the English system works and how becoming a judge is such big step in a lawyers career?
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D |
Many congratulations Tudor. We have done the odd case together over the years and flown together at Redhill many years ago.
I hope you enjoy your new appointment and would only add that when you say you will miss cross-examining witnesses I'm sure that is right. Just make sure you do! |
Rotorbee,
The best, and arguably the most enjoyable, way to answer your question would be to recommend that you read John Mortimer's "Rumpole of the Bailey" stories. You'd also learn where most of us who use it picked up the phrase "She Who Must Be Obeyed" - ie not from the original H Rider Haggard. |
Congrats Mr Owen
We`ll meet in your court some day soon i`m sure, (and i`ll be on the correct side of the room) CM:ok: |
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