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RI830 23rd Sep 2019 20:10

Peach Japan NTR Captains
 
Peach is hiring NTR Airbus 320 Captains.
They offer commutable contacts but doesn't list the rotation times. Anyone have intel on this opportunity?

Thanks in advance

RUMBEAR 24th Sep 2019 00:18

Its not actually included in the contract, however a block of 10 consecutive days is available each month.

galdian 24th Sep 2019 02:27

Interesting if contract is better than advertised - that'd pretty much be a first! - Peach flyers quoting 16 days within 2 months for commuters.

Skymark, Spring J and J*J appear to offer 10 consecutive per month.
Always make sure the magic word "consecutive" is used.

Cheers

RUMBEAR 24th Sep 2019 05:17

16 consecutive days within 2 months was never in the contract either. That option stopped being available about a year ago. The recruiting companies need to update their “flyers”.

galdian 24th Sep 2019 14:05

OK my bad, if updated policy then should be correct in "flyers" if the agencies want to present Peach in the best light, maybe even some ad spin: "back to back possible but not guaranteed..." or similar.

Personally looking a contracts the 16 within 2 months Vs 10 consecutive per month was a consideration.
Maybe just me.

Cheers

Kincaid 18th Oct 2019 17:42

How about the Medical? Is difficult as they say or are these just rumors?

Kaboobla 18th Oct 2019 22:13

If you have something wrong with you medically it will be found. Max BMI is 30. Easy to fail the initial medical.

The Dominican 19th Oct 2019 18:11


Originally Posted by Kincaid (Post 10597755)
How about the Medical? Is difficult as they say or are these just rumors?

The medical is worse than we can possibly convey in written form, and training will be an excercise in patience and a personal challenge to increase your tolerance for stupidity and irrelevance!

There you go, Japanese pilot jobs in a nutshell.

LNAV VNAV - 1st Nov 2019 08:25

Does anyone have any information about the written exams one will have to do to get the Japanese ATPL? Are these done during the screening phase like in China?

RUMBEAR 1st Nov 2019 10:43

Japanese Airlaw only. Candidates are placed on a course for a few days to prepare as part of the initial induction training.

subria023 21st Nov 2019 15:14

Hi,

Reading about the benefits at Peach, I noticed there are National Health Insurance and Pension Scheme. Does anyone have more information about how these two benefits work? How good is the coverage?

Thank you

RUMBEAR 22nd Nov 2019 09:27

Subria

what exactly do you mean by coverage? Health Insurance basically covers medical fees by around 80% of the scheduled cost. So if you visit a doctor / dentist you pay a small fee if you have a health insurance card. System is not really designed for use outside of Japan. Pension also is basically designed for domestic use, however their is some facility to withdraw contributions when expats leave the country. Not really sure about the details about how much can be withdrawn or tax implications.

subria023 22nd Nov 2019 15:10


Originally Posted by RUMBEAR (Post 10623959)
Subria

what exactly do you mean by coverage? Health Insurance basically covers medical fees by around 80% of the scheduled cost. So if you visit a doctor / dentist you pay a small fee if you have a health insurance card. System is not really designed for use outside of Japan. Pension also is basically designed for domestic use, however their is some facility to withdraw contributions when expats leave the country. Not really sure about the details about how much can be withdrawn or tax implications.

RUMBEAR, thank you very much for the reply, You have just explained exactly what I was looking for regarding the medical benefit. As for the pension, let’s say you manage to get your contract renewed until you retire at 65 and decide to leave Japan by then, if it is designed for domestic use, I was just wondering what will happen to our contribution after all those years. My understanding about the pension is something we receive after the retirement. Not sure if that’s the case for this contract.

RUMBEAR 22nd Nov 2019 21:00

As I mentioned I dont really know much about the pension system. My understanding is when reaching retirement, pensions can only be deposited into a Japanese bank account. If you have left Japan and no longer have any residency then you cannot continue to hold a Japanese account. So for a foreigner taking as much as you can when you leave seems to be the only option! Keep in mind this is your money anyway as a monthly “pension insurance” fee will be deducted from you salary. Its not what I would consider sufficient to sustain retirement though!

subria023 23rd Nov 2019 15:11


Originally Posted by RUMBEAR (Post 10624383)
As I mentioned I dont really know much about the pension system. My understanding is when reaching retirement, pensions can only be deposited into a Japanese bank account. If you have left Japan and no longer have any residency then you cannot continue to hold a Japanese account. So for a foreigner taking as much as you can when you leave seems to be the only option! Keep in mind this is your money anyway as a monthly “pension insurance” fee will be deducted from you salary. Its not what I would consider sufficient to sustain retirement though!

Hi RUMBEAR, thanks again. I now can see your point !

bafanguy 2nd Dec 2019 20:27

How are requirements for expats being relaxed ?:

“…and the priority after the Vanilla Air integration is to speed up expansion and pilot recruitment, CEO Shinichi Inoue told ATW…”

“…Inoue said Japanese regulators are becoming more relaxed with the rules for hiring foreign pilots..”

https://atwonline.com/airlines/peach...+Daily+News%29

Kaboobla 2nd Dec 2019 22:22

Pay is up to a third less than JJP, SKY and AJX. Less than 1.0m per month after tax and deductions.

Many Japanese Captains leaving for China. Failure rate on JCAB sim and line checks for foreigners over 50%

There is no relaxation of JCAB requirements for foreigners.

The Peach CEO is talking through his ass.

RUMBEAR 3rd Dec 2019 04:48


Originally Posted by Kaboobla (Post 10631287)
Pay is up to a third less than JJP, SKY and AJX. Less than 1.0m per month after tax and deductions.

Many Japanese Captains leaving for China. Failure rate on JCAB sim and line checks for foreigners over 50%

There is no relaxation of JCAB requirements for foreigners.

The Peach CEO is talking through his ass.

To put a little perspective on things, yes salaries are a little behind other carriers in Japan.

If one or two captains moving to Chinese carriers is “many” then correct. 50% failure rate is a little bit of an exaggeration. Yes there are failures and yes at a higher rate that many other countries, however I would say the rate of failures between Japanese and expat pilots is about the same.

I dont think regulatory change is whats needed to make the process of joining a Japanese airline smoother. A change of philosophy, instructional technique and decision making regarding training and assessment is whats needed.

Kaboobla 3rd Dec 2019 11:42


Originally Posted by RUMBEAR (Post 10631397)


To put a little perspective on things, yes salaries are a little behind other carriers in Japan.

The pay for captains is 1/3rd less than any other Japanese carrier. Not an issue if you are on instructor pay like RUMBEAR is. Your picture and life history on the Peach website tell the story.

If one or two captains moving to Chinese carriers is “many” then correct. 50% failure rate is a little bit of an exaggeration. Yes there are failures and yes at a higher rate that many other countries, however I would say the rate of failures between Japanese and expat pilots is about the same.

Thats not what Ebika - head of JCAB checkers - said in a meeting recently.

I dont think regulatory change is whats needed to make the process of joining a Japanese airline smoother. A change of philosophy, instructional technique and decision making regarding training and assessment is whats needed.

Never happen. Foreign pilots are hated in Japan and if they could all be run out of the place by the Japanese they would be.

The CEO needs to bring his management team into line if he wants to realise his expansions dreams. Again unlikely he can achieve that.

KPBuLL 4th Mar 2020 04:19

Hi,

Has anyone recently done an interview with Peach?

I would like to know the process as I’m thinking of applying for the NTR DEC.

Thanks.

Albun 23rd Apr 2020 16:47

Hi Guys

Wanted to find out what the guys at Peach are looking at in the Interviews. I believe all slots have now been changed to Skype Interviews.
Any Info would be appreciated.

On Guard 8th May 2020 23:23

Can any guys up their enlighten me on tax. My investigation it looks like you pay 33%, do you get any back?

Thanks.

jpn crj driver 10th May 2020 01:40


Originally Posted by On Guard (Post 10776798)
Can any guys up their enlighten me on tax. My investigation it looks like you pay 33%, do you get any back?

Thanks.

Hey Guard

I am not a Peach Pilot but do fly in Japan and pay Japanese Tax as a resident... You will pay Natl, Prefecture and City taxes... Those come to about 36% for me and Peach pay is about the same... The tax rates are tiered so the more you make the more you will pay... If you plan 36% you will be in the ballpark... NHI the health Insurance tax runs about 990,000 JPY a year, think Peach picks up half... It also is a tiered tax but all pilots in Japan get to the max tax, the 990,000 was last year and it also increases with ones age I believe... The "Pension" tax I am not sure which one they will enroll you in... We are in the "low" wage sector one and it is 16,000 JPY a month, mate at Vanilla was in the high wage sector and was 55,000 a month... Want the low end if possible because the chances of getting your money back on departure is remote... These numbers are only my personal experience check with a tax pro is recommended for exact numbers... Best of luck...

Kampai

LNAV VNAV - 10th May 2020 06:58

Gentlemen, can anyone post here or pm me any technical questions from the Peach interview?

Thanks!

Airbus320Airbus 17th Jul 2020 07:00

Peach
 
Hi guys anyone have any helpful informations regarding Peach Airline 1st and 2nd Skype interview?

firebolt2000 2nd Oct 2020 16:10

Hi Guys, also looking for any information on the interview process i.e. 1st and 2nd Skype interview as well as simulator profile

j.nips 3rd Oct 2020 02:08

Hi. I seriously doubt if any of the Japanese operators would hire or conduct interviews these days. Cutting back their fleet, getting rid of foreigners (who mind you are holders of japanese licenses) are the new norm. Even if hiring restarts in a year or two it will be for JCAB license holders initially. The latter is the bottleneck of all: training can take up to 6 months to a year thus i doubt if japanese operators will look at non-JCAB licensed pilots at all in the future. Cheers.

snakeslugger 3rd Oct 2020 05:15


Originally Posted by j.nips (Post 10897261)
Hi. I seriously doubt if any of the Japanese operators would hire or conduct interviews these days. Cutting back their fleet, getting rid of foreigners (who mind you are holders of japanese licenses) are the new norm. Even if hiring restarts in a year or two it will be for JCAB license holders initially. The latter is the bottleneck of all: training can take up to 6 months to a year thus i doubt if japanese operators will look at non-JCAB licensed pilots at all in the future. Cheers.

Possibly correct for a type rated JCAB holder, however the difference in training time non type rated and non JCAB vs non type rated JCAB holder is about 1 month according to a Peach Captain.

j.nips 3rd Oct 2020 06:06

According to my friends at Jetstar Japan there was a massive difference (3+ months) between type rated non-JCAB and non-type rated JCAB applicants. In any case it will be interesting to see what will happen with for example the ex-AJX guys as both Peach and AJX are part of the ANA group.

firebolt2000 3rd Oct 2020 09:45

I know a few first officers who have been let go from AJX, their recruiting company gave them a presentation for peach a few weeks ago. It seems like they might have a chance there, but they seem hesitant to take it as they are worried that it will "disqualify them" from returning to AJX in a few years. I hear what you are saying about the eastern operators not hiring foreigners for the foreseeable future. However I'm currently furloughed and I have too much free time, trying to build an interview gouge for peach in the meantime, so would still really appreciate any information that anyone is willing to share about the interview process there, more specifically from anyone who has been through the Skype interviews or simulator assessment.

Lucifer786 3rd Oct 2020 10:08

Curious to know if anyone here has done either the sim or the interview with Peach lately.
And if so, when did you apply initially please. This is for NTR non JCAB DEC.
Thanks in advance.

j.nips 15th Oct 2020 04:05

As far as i know only JCAB (both rated and ntr) pilots are welcome to apply to a talent pool at the moment through their website without agencies being involved.

firebolt2000 15th Oct 2020 08:05

Thanks J.nips, I guess it would make sense for them to follow that route for as long as they can. Hopefully the Industry will pick up over the next two years and these opportunities will be available to expats as well.


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