All the contracts are differents... and a contract for CP is just a piece of paper...
It s difficult to answer about your question... To give an idea, for a captain is from 115000 pesos basic to ??? With 3000 pesos by hour. Of course if they give you the salary... 20 000 pesos during the training... can take 9 months.. so good luck for survive in Manila. if you still interested with this conditions you are very motivated 🤣 |
STAY AWAY FROM CEBU
Originally Posted by FLYSAFETY514
(Post 10413173)
All the contracts are differents... and a contract for CP is just a piece of paper...
It s difficult to answer about your question... To give an idea, for a captain is from 115000 pesos basic to ??? With 3000 pesos by hour. Of course if they give you the salary... 20 000 pesos during the training... can take 9 months.. so good luck for survive in Manila. if you still interested with this conditions you are very motivated 🤣 |
cebu pacific they lie they give you different contract they will issue you a validation for a philipine license pilots flying there with no pc for the last 2 years chinese mafia running the company the contract is apiece of paper means shi. T work your math buddy |
STAY AWAY
STAY AWAY FRON CEBU PACIFIC |
Originally Posted by FLYSAFETY514
(Post 10413173)
All the contracts are differents... and a contract for CP is just a piece of paper...
It s difficult to answer about your question... To give an idea, for a captain is from 115000 pesos basic to ??? With 3000 pesos by hour. Of course if they give you the salary... 20 000 pesos during the training... can take 9 months.. so good luck for survive in Manila. if you still interested with this conditions you are very motivated 🤣 Thanks for going into detail its much appreciated. |
Another joy of CP is how they skim the pay. It's virtually impossible to track pay and flight pay, and for the few that have looked into it each month is always a bit short.
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How do they keep on getting away with all of this? Late and underpaid....
I guess thats why people are leaving in droves. |
Originally Posted by newpielot
(Post 10451315)
How do they keep on getting away with all of this? Late and underpaid....
I guess thats why people are leaving in droves. Also remember it's very difficult for a local to pay for the training to even get in the door, hence why CP must depend upon expats to fill in the work force. But CP thinks expats will put up with the same poor working conditions of the locals, and there is the major flaw and why there is a revolving door of pilot hiring. Another huge problem is CP's middle managers which are locals. These are lackey's who are impressed with titles and possess no abilities to actually manage. They think management means to use fear and intimidation. Truly the blind leading the blind. |
Originally Posted by Black Crow
(Post 10451967)
This airline is in a third world country where doctors make roughly P50,000/month and a lawyer about the same. High poverty rate and high unemployment rate. So to a local, a job where they can make P200,000+ a month is golden, even though the working conditions are poor.
Also remember it's very difficult for a local to pay for the training to even get in the door, hence why CP must depend upon expats to fill in the work force. But CP thinks expats will put up with the same poor working conditions of the locals, and there is the major flaw and why there is a revolving door of pilot hiring. Another huge problem is CP's middle managers which are locals. These are lackey's who are impressed with titles and possess no abilities to actually manage. They think management means to use fear and intimidation. Truly the blind leading the blind. Thanks again for replying at length. I can just imagine it all very clearly now. It seems to be the way with everything there in all industries. More of a cultural thing. Especially the obsession with ‘titles’. How sad. I hope everyone can see this now and make a very informed decision on what is worthy of their time. Thanks again Black Crow |
Be aware
You will come across big sharks working for HR as they will try to milk you out as the training department is ouch of people with no honesty don’t go there specially to many good places around but not CEBU PACIFIC |
Originally Posted by Labu
(Post 10452312)
You will come across big sharks working for HR as they will try to milk you out as the training department is ouch of people with no honesty don’t go there specially to many good places around but not CEBU PACIFIC What other good places would you recommend and what qualities differentiates them from CebPac? |
Originally Posted by Black Crow
(Post 10451967)
This airline is in a third world country where doctors make roughly P50,000/month and a lawyer about the same. High poverty rate and high unemployment rate. So to a local, a job where they can make P200,000+ a month is golden, even though the working conditions are poor.
Also remember it's very difficult for a local to pay for the training to even get in the door, hence why CP must depend upon expats to fill in the work force. But CP thinks expats will put up with the same poor working conditions of the locals, and there is the major flaw and why there is a revolving door of pilot hiring. Another huge problem is CP's middle managers which are locals. These are lackey's who are impressed with titles and possess no abilities to actually manage. They think management means to use fear and intimidation. Truly the blind leading the blind. Run away to this company is the better decision. |
Senior Captain A320
Just to reconfirm about Cebu...I recently finished my assessment with a SIM at PAAT near Manila ...I heard a lot of serious bad things about the airline including forcing an expat to change over to a local contract...I went thru CAE Parc and they recently changed over to a 4/1 commuting contract from a 6/2 contract earlier (period of contract 2 yrs). Pay wise they are offering a reasonable amount in USD.
I am most likely not signing the contract but would still like to know from someone who is currently on the airline or has worked there in the recent past about the company ethics and why people have negative things to say about the airline. Thanks in advance for any insider info/ input before I take the final call and tell CAE .....in any case 4/1 does not work for me...I asked about 8/2 but they said no... |
I was working for CP and I told you stay away...
The first reason is they didn t respect the contract.. They didn't pay me my last salary... HR are not reliable.. they can do all they want with you... |
Originally Posted by FLYSAFETY514
(Post 10455165)
I was working for CP and I told you stay away...
The first reason is they didn t respect the contract.. They didn't pay me my last salary... HR are not reliable.. they can do all they want with you... Yet another eye opening insight into it. Initially I didn't believe it when I first entered this thread. I wait for the day for someone to post something positive. Patiently I wait... Lol What other airlines would you put on Par with CP? Are there any good airlines to work for in The Philippines? |
Regarding Cebu don’t sign anything that commit you there but regarding PUNAFLIER email the owner of the company or the COO tell him your story cause there was a pilot I know they started playing dirty games with him he emailed the COO and got his money the COO NAME IS MICHEAL CHAU
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I am almost complete with my assessment for the cadet program of Cebu pacific.
After reading the comments here on this thread, I am having second thoughts on pursuing my application with the airlines. They offer a fly now pay later scheme but you would have a contract bond with them for 10 years and they will deduct 15% of your monthly salary to pay for the training I feel like if I take this deal, ill be indebted to the company for a long time with poor working conditions. Any thoughts about this in the long run if I accept the offer? Maybe I can build my flying hours here and move to another airline? |
Cebu Pacific Cadet Program
If you are young and funding will be a problem then it’s a good option.
But if you have other options to explore then why not. |
Originally Posted by flyfly21
(Post 10465443)
I am almost complete with my assessment for the cadet program of Cebu pacific.
After reading the comments here on this thread, I am having second thoughts on pursuing my application with the airlines. They offer a fly now pay later scheme but you would have a contract bond with them for 10 years and they will deduct 15% of your monthly salary to pay for the training I feel like if I take this deal, ill be indebted to the company for a long time with poor working conditions. Any thoughts about this in the long run if I accept the offer? Maybe I can build my flying hours here and move to another airline? Are you really willing to give up 10 years of your life to a company that treats employees terrible? And they will let you know, often, that they in fact OWN you. Your call. My advise is to run, now. |
Hey all, Considering applying for A320 NTR FO.
- Is it better to apply directly or through CAE? - What’s the actual pay? - Is there a bonding for the type rating? Thanks! |
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