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Daddy Fantastic 8th Oct 2018 10:05

EVA Air 777 and 787
 
Will EVA 777 pilots be flying the 787 as well due to it being a common type?

typhoonpilot 8th Oct 2018 11:34


Originally Posted by Daddy Fantastic (Post 10268593)
Will EVA 777 pilots be flying the 787 as well due to it being a common type?

It is not a common type under the FAA and likely won't be under the Taiwan CAA.

Daddy Fantastic 8th Oct 2018 11:51


Originally Posted by typhoonpilot (Post 10268667)
It is not a common type under the FAA and likely won't be under the Taiwan CAA.

I did not know that, seems you learn something every day.

How is that though if it is a common type in Europe, surely it has to be a common type under FAA as well.

I dont see how EASA can promote it as a common type but the FAA cannot.

iggy 9th Oct 2018 05:45

All the 737's share the same TR under FAA, including MAX. Only a differences course is required, I think. 77/87 should be the same, otherwise where is the incentive to buy it...

Daddy Fantastic 9th Oct 2018 06:04


Originally Posted by iggy (Post 10269311)
All the 737's share the same TR under FAA, including MAX. Only a differences course is required, I think. 77/87 should be the same, otherwise where is the incentive to buy it...

Thats what I was saying and Boeing claims it is a common type. Im thinking it is a common type no matter where you are.

PhantomPilot 11th Oct 2018 01:59


Originally Posted by Daddy Fantastic (Post 10268593)
Will EVA 777 pilots be flying the 787 as well due to it being a common type?

No they won't. They will be 2 separate fleets.

captjns 12th Oct 2018 15:31


Originally Posted by iggy (Post 10269311)
All the 737's share the same TR under FAA, including MAX. Only a differences course is required, I think. 77/87 should be the same, otherwise where is the incentive to buy it...

too many differences between the 777 and 787.

avi8safely 13th Oct 2018 02:00


Originally Posted by PhantomPilot (Post 10270853)
No they won't. They will be 2 separate fleets.

I sent a pm. Please check your message box.

Daddy Fantastic 13th Oct 2018 17:27

Norwegian 787
 

Originally Posted by captjns (Post 10272178)


too many differences between the 777 and 787.

I know pilots at Norwegian and they get a 787/777 rating. They say the training on the 787 is even set up to follow some of the 777 differences. First hand knowledge from pilots actually doing the training at LGW.

dabssa 14th Oct 2018 06:33

Daddy Fantastic, even after you get an answer to your question you keep nagging with why, how come, or in some xyz airlines it's like that... If you show up with that attitude in Taiwan, Korea or Japan, you won't be too successful in your training and your life will be miserable. Good luck.

Daddy Fantastic 14th Oct 2018 07:03


Originally Posted by dabssa (Post 10282424)
Daddy Fantastic, even after you get an answer to your question you keep nagging with why, how come, or in some xyz airlines it's like that... If you show up with that attitude in Taiwan, Korea or Japan, you won't be too successful in your training and your life will be miserable. Good luck.

Seriously how sad are you? I asked a question where there are differences of opinion regarding the answer. Clearly you are one of those 'YES MEN' in Taiwan...just does as he is told and does not bother to question when something does not add up.

I bet you must be a real joy to fly with....

dabssa 14th Oct 2018 07:20

There are really no differences of opinion. Several people gave a concrete answer but you still keep pushing the issue. Who cares what Norwegian or whoever else does! Seems you don't get the point. Your opinion or how things are done elsewhere does not matter in many parts of Asia.

Daddy Fantastic 14th Oct 2018 08:20

Concrete answer
 

Originally Posted by dabssa (Post 10282445)
There are really no differences of opinion. Several people gave a concrete answer but you still keep pushing the issue. Who cares what Norwegian or whoever else does! Seems you don't get the point. Your opinion or how things are done elsewhere does not matter in many parts of Asia.

Show me 1 concrete answer with indisputable proof.

Under the FAA it is a common type as it is under EASA so please tell me where the concrete proof is. Im far more interested in what EASA and the FAA do and say than an Asian CAA considering EASA and the FAA are what that world aviation standards are based off.

Above posters have expressed opinions or thoughts, not undeniable proof. Clearly you need to learn the differences yet Im still baffled as to why you have an issue with somebody debating an answer, this is what the forum is for.

If I said to you the A320/A319 or A330/350 are not a common type, using your logic it must be true because a poster gave you concrete evidence by just saying that.

As stated before, you must be a REAL PLEASURE to fly with...

dabssa 14th Oct 2018 08:53

+886-2-2349-6280 Taiwan CAA. Talk to Mr. Lin. Ask directly to get concrete and indisputable proof.

Daddy Fantastic 14th Oct 2018 09:03


Originally Posted by dabssa (Post 10282513)
+886-2-2349-6280 Taiwan CAA. Talk to Mr. Lin. Ask directly to get concrete and indisputable proof.

Sure okay...call Boeing direct on +1 206-655-1131 and ask for the sales department in Seattle. Last time I checked they make the aeroplane and market and sell it as a common type which both EASA and FAA have endorsed and accepted...

Silly me...

Who stole my meds 14th Oct 2018 10:24

The Taiwanese CAA have the final say on which aircraft have common type ratings on the Taiwanese register not Boeing or EASA or the FAA.

etops777 14th Oct 2018 10:43

CAA of Taiwan has the final say
 
Under CAA of Taiwan, the 787 will not be under a common type rating!

It is a B registered aircraft so CAA has the final say!

BAe 146-100 14th Oct 2018 11:10

Typical Yank, this is asia my friend, your FAA rules don’t apply here.

Daddy Fantastic 14th Oct 2018 15:59


Originally Posted by BAe 146-100 (Post 10282622)
Typical Yank, this is asia my friend, your FAA rules don’t apply here.

Im not American and as far as 'YANKS' and credibility or safety or quality of pilot and training goes in aviation, they are light years ahead of Asia and all your Vietjets, Lionairs, Asiana's, Air Asia's (need I go on) which are effectively flying death traps!!

Abbey Road 14th Oct 2018 19:37

British Airways has 777 and 787 fleets but the crews are not interchangeable, even though for example, the 777 pilots have a 777/787 IR/PBN rating endorsement on their licenses. Only the BA 777/787 training pilots are fully qualified to fly both types.

PILOTHEAD 17th Oct 2018 23:01

Local rules apply
 
In Ethiopia I fly both because the local CAA allows it. Each governing authority sets the rules and there is nothing to argue about when it comes to rules. Next topic please

Daddy Fantastic 18th Oct 2018 06:52

The question
 

Originally Posted by PILOTHEAD (Post 10285870)
In Ethiopia I fly both because the local CAA allows it. Each governing authority sets the rules and there is nothing to argue about when it comes to rules. Next topic please

Thats great but still does not explain why idiots like Dabssa will tell you it is not a common type when it clearly is.

Their CAA may not allow you to fly both but IT IS STILL A COMMON TYPE and the question was...... 'Would the pilots fly both due to it being a common type?'

So the answer could very well be no because the Taiwanese CAA says no but it is not a no due to it NOT being a common type as the only people who decide if it is a common type is BOEING...Nobody else...

The Taiwanese CAA may feel it is unsafe, unprofessional or whatever reason they come up with but not for the common type argument....BOEING SAYS it is a common type therefor it is a common type!!!

That fact is undeniable!!...just like the 757/767 is a common type...A318/319/320/321 are a common type....Taiwan CAA does not get to decide this, no CAA does!!

fatbus 18th Oct 2018 15:55

The CAA dictates MFF

etops777 18th Oct 2018 19:16

Kid will always be kid!! Next topic

swh 19th Oct 2018 04:08


Originally Posted by Daddy Fantastic (Post 10282481)
Show me 1 concrete answer with indisputable proof.

Under the FAA it is a common type as it is under EASA so please tell me where the concrete proof is. Im far more interested in what EASA and the FAA do and say than an Asian CAA considering EASA and the FAA are what that world aviation standards are based off.

Under FAA the 787 and 777 are two different ratings, same with the A330 and A350. There was a FAA report suggesting a common type ratings for the 787 and 777 however they never implemented it.

https://registry.faa.gov/TypeRatings/

In Europe under EASA the 777/787 and A330/A350 are common type ratings.

Taiwan CAA follows the FAA in this instance.

dragongoliath 19th Nov 2018 20:14

Anybody recently did the screening in Taiwan? I recently applied and got invited to Taiwan but I would like to receive some feedback before going.

avi8safely 18th Dec 2018 04:25


Originally Posted by dragongoliath (Post 10315037)
Anybody recently did the screening in Taiwan? I recently applied and got invited to Taiwan but I would like to receive some feedback before going.

I’m interested in EVA. How did your sim and interview go? Any comment would be much appreciated.


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