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bitemyhardly 11th Dec 2020 18:04

NO, more.... you will pay ALL costs and good luck!

cjpilot350 12th Dec 2020 13:54

Hi There Rjag! I've just been contacted by Bamboo recruitment and sent the link for the online test, applied in October 20. Does anyone have any gen on this online test and the skype interview? Many thanks!

bitemyhardly 28th Dec 2020 03:47

NO NEWS from 5 STARS FAMILY
 
Usual behavior,

SALARY payed 2 months late for EXPATS while Vietnamese in 2 blocks but monthly
NO REFERENCE LETTER when you leave, they will ask you copy of your passport exit stamp... UNBELIAVABLE SCAMMERS !
NO ROSTER, daily changing and without minimum OFF days
18,000 USD BRIBE for COMMAND UPGRADE, payable in to tranches in black to DFO (you still believe them??? we are still waiting the STOCKS we payed last year!)
NO COMMUTING, only 5/1 available and new salary in VND in GROSS (They will be paying our taxes... MAYBE)
MONTHLY salary policy changes with several deduction of ASPECTED salary including PRECEIDING MONTHS (post COVID -30%)

THOSE ARE 5 STARS LIARS ONLY

Ridinghigh 29th Dec 2020 11:45

Same here, if you have any info. keep me posted!

Lucifer786 29th Dec 2020 13:43


Originally Posted by cjpilot350 (Post 10945727)
Hi There Rjag! I've just been contacted by Bamboo recruitment and sent the link for the online test, applied in October 20. Does anyone have any gen on this online test and the skype interview? Many thanks!

For what fleet and position were you contacted brother

BAe 146-100 29th Dec 2020 18:15


Originally Posted by bitemyhardly (Post 10955647)
Usual behavior,

SALARY payed 2 months late for EXPATS while Vietnamese in 2 blocks but monthly
NO REFERENCE LETTER when you leave, they will ask you copy of your passport exit stamp... UNBELIAVABLE SCAMMERS !
NO ROSTER, daily changing and without minimum OFF days
18,000 USD BRIBE for COMMAND UPGRADE, payable in to tranches in black to DFO (you still believe them??? we are still waiting the STOCKS we payed last year!)
NO COMMUTING, only 5/1 available and new salary in VND in GROSS (They will be paying our taxes... MAYBE)
MONTHLY salary policy changes with several deduction of ASPECTED salary including PRECEIDING MONTHS (post COVID -30%)

THOSE ARE 5 STARS LIARS ONLY

so go home and be jobless then, whats your alternative, delta a350 capt? Give me a break save the complaints for another time

squarecrow 1st Jan 2021 10:31

MB135 Type Rating Instructor Vietstar Airlines Vietnam :}


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Job location : Viet Nam

Job published date : 2020-12-30

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bitemyhardly 4th Jan 2021 05:26

All BAD as usual BAV Policy
 
Several pilots have the work permit and resident card expiring by the end of June.
Bamboo HR is playing badly as usual postponing paperwork at last minute.
They keep fighting with Agents since they don't want to pay them any commission to quit contracts in advance.
According to the contract, they can not hire directly any pilot contracted by agencies for one year or Bamboo has to pay The Agent.
Bamboo proposed them to CHARGE COSTS TO THE PILOT and in the same time plans to force employees to sign a direct contract before te natural agency contract end to show Agencies that is the Pilot that want to quit not Bamboo as to avoid any commission.
They don't care at all about employees, families, lives...just about their own profit.
They keep paying salaries time to time according to monthly policies for Expats with huge delays and without any chance to check the correct amount.
They continue to change policies backwards without any respect for contractual terms and work condition.
They don't care about flight safety, all employees are slaves working for free.
Those are the bigger liars worldwide, 5 STAR LIARS

bitemyhardly 4th Jan 2021 05:39

Is not a question of money my friend, is a question of behaviour.
We are flying normally, flights full, every day.
They don't pay us
Visas expiring, residence expiring, no roster, no commuting, no life insurance, no medical insurance, policies changing every month retroactively.
They don't have the MINIMUM respect for us and our families.

If you like to be screwed deeply I suggest you to join those A.....s! and be prepared to pay....


oshn 1st Mar 2021 02:21

What's the latest on Bamboo Airways? Are things improving? I've been contacted for a Skype Interview for the Embraer fleet, but the reviews here are less than reassuring. Thanks

polax52 1st Mar 2021 05:24


Originally Posted by oshn (Post 10999465)
What's the latest on Bamboo Airways? Are things improving? I've been contacted for a Skype Interview for the Embraer fleet, but the reviews here are less than reassuring. Thanks

You know the reality. There are too many Pilots in the World. Employers will always have the upper hand. When you choose to become an expat, you choose to give up the rights and protection that you'd expect at home. Many find that the only tool they have is to abuse their employer on PPrune. Look at Emirates, Qatar, Cathay etc. Yet it's the same people year after year in the same company with the same stories.

If you want to go expat then do it. Don't come back here complaining in 6 months time.

You have the basic info from this thread that you need. Late salaries, No commuting, you pay for your upgrade. If that's alright with you then go for it.

Count von Altibar 1st Mar 2021 13:36

I think polax52 has summed it up succinctly, wise words indeed.

THT 2nd Mar 2021 00:27

I understand that the company takes advantage over expats... however, in the current context, it's very difficult to know what is the best...To be unemployed or to keep a foot in the industry at the price of many concessions ? It is really 50-50...

lee_apromise 5th Mar 2021 22:08

What I got offered for Ejet fleet:

No pay until IOE begins (undefined period for ground training and license conversion).

Terms & Conditions are subject to change due to COVID pandemic (so pay can be drastically reduced once I'm on the property).

That was enough for me to reject their job offer.




dabz 8th Mar 2021 09:05

https://www.latestpilotjobs.com/jobs/view/id/16182.html

They're hiring, what's going on? Are they trying to scam expats?

lee_apromise 8th Mar 2021 09:52


Originally Posted by dabz (Post 11004356)
https://www.latestpilotjobs.com/jobs/view/id/16182.html

They're hiring, what's going on? Are they trying to scam expats?

I wanted to go but I'm not making this up, look:

(1) General regulation:
- From boarding date to 1st line training date: Pilot isn't
entitled to get salary and all types of allowances but pilot
is entitled to get per diem (if any), hotel corresponds to
employee grade (if any)
- From 1st line training date: pilot is entitled to get benefit
package pursuant to this income announcement

"Annotation: During Covid-19 pandemic, Pilots will be entitled to a salary policy from time to time according to the airline's regulations and based on the actual operation situation. The time for applying 100% post-pandemic policy is when WHO declares the end of pandemic or BAV officially announces application of the post-pandemic policy, whichever comes first."

After reading these 2 sections in the contract, I am staying in my current company where I get paid on time all the time.

SVC1972 8th Mar 2021 12:21

Is there any difference in applying direct or through an agency for terms and conditions
Also they are not an easy company to deal with or communicate with

lee_apromise 8th Mar 2021 12:31


Originally Posted by Zorro_PL (Post 11004488)
Is it Bamboo contract or did you applied via agency with those terms?

I applied directly to Bamboo.

oshn 8th Mar 2021 22:51

Has anyone else heard anything? I'd be interested to connect with someone else considering the offer. My PPRUNE account is new and my inbox is apparently full already, so please reply in this thread, and I'll send you a PM with contact details.

Nick 1 10th Mar 2021 11:52

How much you need to pay to have your money back as salary ?

BANANASBANANAS 11th Mar 2021 01:36


Originally Posted by polax52 (Post 10999495)
You know the reality. There are too many Pilots in the World. Employers will always have the upper hand. When you choose to become an expat, you choose to give up the rights and protection that you'd expect at home. Many find that the only tool they have is to abuse their employer on PPrune. Look at Emirates, Qatar, Cathay etc. Yet it's the same people year after year in the same company with the same stories.

If you want to go expat then do it. Don't come back here complaining in 6 months time.

You have the basic info from this thread that you need. Late salaries, No commuting, you pay for your upgrade. If that's alright with you then go for it.

You are quite correct as far as you go but there is, for many, a bit more to the story. I started my expat career in the 1990's and the enhanced, tax free salary, and general terms and conditions made the 'other' factors more than bearable. Since then, of course, the conditions and treatment have got steadily worse while, in real terms, the salary has also gone backwards. However, for a guy currently in his late 40s, early 50s it is still better (less bad?) to continue as an expat rather than go to the bottom of a seniority list (assuming he can find employment of course) back home.

Thankfully I listened to the advice I received on day one of my expat career and saved hard during the good times to build up a war chest to protect my family through the bad times. So, currently I am unemployed in SE Asia and looking for another opportunity, anywhere.We are not worried about paying bills but there isn't a lot left over each month. And yes, I know that puts us ahead of a lot of other people. I have had a great time as an expat and regret very little of it. That said, the sooner we get out of this Covid-19 induced mess the better for us all.

E145PENGUIN 15th Mar 2021 12:24

Vietstar info
 
Does anyone have any previous/current experience with the company Vietstar that could give me some gen? Company culture? Do they pay full salary and on time? Accommodation provided or not? Some general information would be great..

Thanks

Lucifer786 15th Mar 2021 18:26

What does the Skype interview for a Captain’s position feel like. What are they quizzing about.
Any input welcome.

Flaperon777 19th Mar 2021 10:13

Not too sure about the Skype interview. But when I last asked a friend who interviewed more than a year ago ( last cycle ), it was mostly theory questions pertaining to ATPL followed by a face to face I think. I’m not quite sure. Would be nice if anybody in this forum could throw some light on the interview details. A lot of senior seasoned aviators here.

safelife 19th Mar 2021 22:34

10 min Skype Interview, strictly technical, about your aircraft type.
If A320, loss of braking will likely be asked.

bitemyhardly 20th Mar 2021 03:58

Well done my dear friend. Those scammers are just paying with Crews.
Expats are NOT wellcome by managers but they have no chance
Plan is to have Cadets on Right seat and maybe new low fare Captains on the LH paying bribes under the table (18,000 USD)

bitemyhardly 20th Mar 2021 04:40

The Company of H o s p i t a l i t y
 
The question in Bamboo is the same... they will never get back to previous salaries and Vietnam is going to recover from this COVID situation in Years.
No commuting and lower salary will be your destiny without the chance to see your family if not quitting your contract. Leave is not foreseen.
As Expat you are no one in this company and you are just a number for them. They quit commuting and the only option available now is 5/1.
They will be always demanding your holidays since they are unable to plan. The roster is changing several times a day and you will be always available.
Salary is paid on time for direct contract only but in 2 tranches every 15 days. They create different groups on Viber to avoid people sharing any unwanted information, all controlled and screened by managers.
ONLY Vietnamese reports are considered and those are used to blackmail crews. Recently they would like to get rid of several "unwanted" Crews but with their planning is difficult.... maybe some spare is coming from VNA f they will give them the release, maybe
Priority is for Cadets paying to fly and you will be always on stby for free. Prepare your own funds to pay and sustain your time here... at list 3-4 months without any salary.

Lucifer786 20th Mar 2021 09:05


Originally Posted by safelife (Post 11012406)
10 min Skype Interview, strictly technical, about your aircraft type.
If A320, loss of braking will likely be asked.

Thanks safelife.
Looking for some info on the theory quiz too if possible.
What can be expected and how do they hold a theory exam on Skype ( online maybe …?? ).
Thanks again for the above.

ia1166 22nd Mar 2021 13:18


Originally Posted by bitemyhardly (Post 11012497)
The question in Bamboo is the same... they will never get back to previous salaries and Vietnam is going to recover from this COVID situation in Years.
No commuting and lower salary will be your destiny without the chance to see your family if not quitting your contract. Leave is not foreseen.
As Expat you are no one in this company and you are just a number for them. They quit commuting and the only option available now is 5/1.
They will be always demanding your holidays since they are unable to plan. The roster is changing several times a day and you will be always available.
Salary is paid on time for direct contract only but in 2 tranches every 15 days. They create different groups on Viber to avoid people sharing any unwanted information, all controlled and screened by managers.
ONLY Vietnamese reports are considered and those are used to blackmail crews. Recently they would like to get rid of several "unwanted" Crews but with their planning is difficult.... maybe some spare is coming from VNA f they will give them the release, maybe
Priority is for Cadets paying to fly and you will be always on stby for free. Prepare your own funds to pay and sustain your time here... at list 3-4 months without any salary.

Anger management courses anyone?

Flaperon777 22nd Mar 2021 15:39


Originally Posted by ia1166 (Post 11013894)
Anger management courses anyone?

Hahahaha … 👏👏👏
On another note, anybody done the 787 Skype. Share your experience pls. Appreciated. 🙏

Flaperon777 25th Mar 2021 15:55

Gentlemen. Quick question.
What is the approx time gap between theory quiz and Skype interview please.
And how do you know that you are through to the interview stage.
Answers appreciated.

SVC1972 25th Mar 2021 16:10

They will contact you if you are through to the interview stage pretty quickly and also if you have passed the Skype interview.
if you fail they just don’t communicate
Their communication skills and ability to think outside the box is non existent

Lucifer786 25th Mar 2021 17:39

Thanks SVC1972. Could you describe ‘pretty quickly’ 🙄.
A couple of days, or maybe a week ?
Similar spot different equipment

SVC1972 25th Mar 2021 17:42

one - two days

ia1166 25th Mar 2021 23:55


Originally Posted by SVC1972 (Post 11016261)
one - two days


Mate don’t take that as gospel, things change here with the wind. They may be dealing with a change of plan for the year.

Keep hopeful, this will be over soon and we’ll be in demand again.

ILS13 3rd Apr 2021 15:52

Just did the E190 Tech quiz last night, woke up with email saying I passed, and that they will be in touch regarding Skype Interview.

I am currently flying E175, but figure there isn't much difference for moving on to the E190. Anyone else going down the Embraer path too?

Any current Bamboo E190 pilots up in here?

pfvspnf 4th Apr 2021 11:54

Can we enter the country for interview

SVC1972 4th Apr 2021 13:14

Thats where the fun starts dealing with the HR department

safelife 4th Apr 2021 20:53


Originally Posted by pfvspnf (Post 11022123)
Can we enter the country for interview

No. Interview via Skype.

ILS13 4th Apr 2021 20:55


Originally Posted by safelife (Post 11022353)
No. Interview via Skype.

Have you done the interview yet?


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