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rotornut 17th Mar 2018 12:41

PA-23 crash kills 10 in Philippines
 
https://www.rt.com/news/421578-plane...ppines-family/

Black Crow 18th Mar 2018 00:53

No surprises. Ask your average filipino multi engine pilot to explain Vmc and you will get a blank stare. And don't even bother discussing with them why the airplane has a full feathering prop, and how to use it.

slatch 18th Mar 2018 03:07

sure seems like it is a PA-32-300 to me.78 or 79

https://scontent.fmnl4-5.fna.fbcdn.n...e6&oe=5B01A39B

subsonicsubic 18th Mar 2018 10:06

Racism isn't cool
 
The Philippines produces mediocre, average and quality aircrew just like everywhere else. I have NOT met a single Philippino pilot who doesn't understand Vmc. I'm assuming you are a Brit. If so, the British Midland crash springs to mind. If you are not British, let me know your nationality and I'll find an appropriate aviation cock up for you.

Black Crow 18th Mar 2018 14:01


Originally Posted by subsonicsubic (Post 10087875)
The Philippines produces mediocre, average and quality aircrew just like everywhere else. I have NOT met a single Philippino pilot who doesn't understand Vmc. I'm assuming you are a Brit. If so, the British Midland crash springs to mind. If you are not British, let me know your nationality and I'll find an appropriate aviation cock up for you.

I've met, and flown with many of them. No systems knowledge on the aircraft they are flying, vague to little understanding of aerodynamics and very basic ATC understanding.

I've also witnessed the CAAP issue a commercial multi engine license in which the check ride consisted of taking the CAAP Inspector once around the traffic pattern by the applicant, with both engines running. The training for the applicant consisted of riding "co-pilot" on a PA23 Aztec hauling fish for a month. No engine out, no emergency training, zip.

Go back and look at the archives of multi engine accidents in the Philippines and you will see a common thread in most of them.


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