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nopax 27th Oct 2014 11:47

English test for Native English speaker - Vietnam
 
Anyone else been through this? I'm neither sweating it, nor surprised, it just seems like an almighty waste of time...half a day is what I've been told.

I thought there was some ICAO guidance available that stated it was a given that native English speakers were Level 6 (Expert).

Dash8driver1312 27th Oct 2014 12:24

English test for Native English speaker - Vietnam
 
I had to do it in under the auspices of AustroControl because they decided on their own accord that clearly no one has good English thanks to certain eastern carriers.

The instructors here saw it as much as a joke as I did...

stator vane 27th Oct 2014 14:19

Not so sure!
 
What if they speak Scottish?!?:cool:

November Mike 27th Oct 2014 14:26

Aussies!
 
Poor Aussies are going to battle as they certainly don't speak any English!! :eek:

Evanelpus 27th Oct 2014 15:22


What if they speak Scottish?!?
They're screwed.;)

November Mike 27th Oct 2014 18:23

Scottish? Special exemptions granted - Aussies? back to the penal colony....

mad_jock 27th Oct 2014 18:57

you can laugh but I know a few native speakers that have ended up with level 5 due to them taking your lowest score in all the sections.

Apparently the written comprehension part can throw up some difficulties as none native speakers have a better grounding between technical differences between certain words. And the US English/UK English can also rear its head.

Haven't got a clue what its like in that area.

IZAD 27th Oct 2014 20:26

What about the Singlish, or Singapore English, no lahh...., where are you putting up lahh? F$@#% nomads:suspect:

V1... Ooops 28th Oct 2014 05:04


Originally Posted by nopax (Post 8716022)
I thought there was some ICAO guidance available that stated it was a given that native English speakers were Level 6 (Expert).

I don't think so. I recently had to go to a lot of trouble to organize an examination with a specially qualified examiner (one who could grant the Level 6 certification) in order to get Level 6 on my European (JAA) licence. English is my first language.

lee_apromise 28th Oct 2014 06:32

One Scott got Level 3 in Korea. :8

Oceanic815Pilot 28th Oct 2014 07:03

I think it depends on where you are and who administers the test. In China I was told it wasn't even possible to test for Level 6 the first time and then only "earned" a 4. When I retook the test in Qatar I obtained Level 6 with no issues. I guess I'm finally proficient for life...

blind pew 28th Oct 2014 14:33

Had my uk/jaa ppl issued/ renewed twice in France over the last decade...have recently been told that the French examinations no longer acceptable and have to do an english test...ex British Airways.....money money money and jobs for the old boys....

G.S. Willy 28th Oct 2014 20:34

I got a level 6 on my first attempt in China, a couple of Aussies doing the test at the same time, got level 5.
English is not my mother tongue, so my Aussie colleagues were pissed off.
Me teasing them on the bus back to Shenzhen did nothing to improve their mood :p

Smokie 28th Oct 2014 22:08

I asked the UK CAA about this, as it was a requirement to have a certificate for various jobs I was applying for at the time. The answer I got was as a Native Speaker and holding a UK CAA/ JAR OPS/ EASA ATPL, I was automatically given Level 6 even though it was not annotated on my license. :)

VijayMallya 30th Oct 2014 17:17

The english can barely speak english!

Smokie 30th Oct 2014 18:56

Must be all the drugs they are on then, dew cundishens in yer neck O the wudds ;)


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