supreme aviation interview for cpl holders..
 

hey guys i hav got an email regarding the interview for the post of copilot on caravan 208b from supreme aviation.. some of my friends have also got it.. but i hav heard a lot of negative comments about this supreme aviation guy..now ma confused if its worth going for it coz mumbai is far far away from my home and either ways am too broke to buy an air ticket.. would really appreciate if you guys could shed any light on this?.. thanks

if you are 208 rated then they should invite you for interview... if not then dont waste time; there will be 100s from Mumbai / Pune area..

i appeared for the interview.also got shortlisted.i am heading to US for their Caravan endorsement.the owner/ceo/md is superb.he is very straight forward. way too smart. he knows the game.

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This message was planted by, errr, Supreme Aviation no less.

Funny old world huh?

Regards
Rob PPRuNe Admin

RkoSim - what negative comments have you heard?

i met captain ameet k agarwal, the owner and ceo. he is a big shot. he is very influential. he does charters for chief ministers.
he is also close to narendra modi.no wander they are penetrating gujarat.
he got a call from ajit singh the other day asking to keep a pilot in front of me.

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Well, well well, a second sign up from Supreme Aviation. What an incredible coincidence! What are the chances of that happening?

Regards again,
Rob PPRuNE Admin

..... asking to keep a pilot infront of me !

:ugh:

License convertion
 

Hi guys,


Question about the license convertion and security background check for foreign Cpl holders:
Howlong it takes for this procedure? and where did you your Caravan endorsement for Supreme air.
Any information would be much preciated

Are you joining as Co-pilot or as Captain?.
As copilot you are going to have bad time managing finance
with the salary they are offering and the base expected.

Van driver,yes the wage is low I thinks just enough for food and accomodation.I will join as First/Officer.But I have to take it, I am low houred and the time is running out for the first job.I would like to hear from guys who are flying for supreme.

flaps 35

In what country did Supreme Aviation offer you a job as FO ?

Are you an Indian Citizen ?

I am not Indian citizen,I am from The Netherlands.
By the way I am waiting also for some information for which country they wants to recruit, and how do they do it with the type-endorsement.

Supreme is recruiting for India, base Mumbai, remember you will end up paying alot for accommodation as many places in Mumbai prefer to keep 5-8 months of security deposit and rent can start from 300$ / month +(correct me people if I am wrong)
Caravan Rating can cost you on an average 12000USD but you might be able to find cheaper options, remember if you are doing it on sim do it only on Level D simulator otherwise Indian DGCA wont accept it.

Van driver thank you for the information.
Wooww 12000$ for a caravan endorsement is a lot of money,here in Europe it is much cheaper,especialy in polen.I agree that the accommodation would be around 300$ p.m.,but I have to survive for 1year.And what about the live expences in mumbay relative to europe it mast be much cheaper?
greetings

@flaps35

You cannot fly for an operator flying Indian Registered aircraft ( VT ) as an FO unless you have an Indian Passport / Original Citizen of India / Person of Indian origin card

Thats a DGCA rule

In addition to that you need an Indian CPL and Radio License . All these can take a very long time to convert

Now if the operator is flying a foreign registered aircraft then its a whole another matter...

If they are telling you that government paperwork and license conversion will be done quickly and you need not worry , it's a scam. ! Don't fall into the trap flap35 !

They have only send an list with company offers and i have accepted.they are only telling me that they have started with the procedures.they ask nothing else such fee,for the convertion procedure,so why do you thinks this is a scam

Flaps35,

Just wait and they will start asking you for money.

If they start asking money,i have no 1pence for them,it is simple i will stop.

looks like supreme has sent common offer letter to everyone. whether things written in it applicable to a specific person or not they have just sent it.
there would be no name written in offer letter to whom it is sent for.

flaps 35: if you do caravan rating on real aircraft you need to fly(10 hours) as per DGCA exercises mentioned with sortie wise statement issued by the training academy. if you are going to do it on sim, you would be doing 10 hours sim time. In both the cases you will undergo some hours of ground training and written test. Also I have seen trend of DGCA asking caravan pilots to do familiarization and IR flight in India to get Caravan endorsement so be ready to bear the cost of that as I am not sure supreme is going to take care of it.

I am not sure about local rules but Cyril sounds right so confirm everything about rules regarding getting work permit and other important things for working as first officer on caravan in India before investing any money into it.

with the aircraft expected to arrive in a month or so ( as per supreme) and flying would be done regularly between Mumbai and near by states and airports I dont know if supreme would operate it regularly on N registration but anything is possible.

@cyrilroy21

there is no such thing that you have to be an indian citizen to fly VT registered aircrafts.
Supreme Aviation has multiple foreign expat pilots on their payroll currently flying business jets for Essar, Jindal, India Bulls, state government, etc. (their last vacancy announcement was for Hawkers, gulfstreams, etc.).

Any pilot around the world needs to follow something called FATA with DGCA, including security clearance and conversion, which takes about 4 months.

guys at Supreme or any other company can push and get the same done in about 2.5 months.

@MohitGarodia65

Please read what I have written once again

I have underlined the specific portion for you

My reply was to @flaps35 when he mentioned that he will be joining as First Officer (FO) and he later mentioned that he is from the Netherlands

I am pretty sure you are aware that the DGCA does not allow foreigners to be hired as a First Officer

Mohit you must be from Supreme to have such great knowledge about the company?

Hehehehehe... is this guy serious??? lol..... this is the biggest joke of 2014 without a doubt.. :D:D:D

@Van Driver

you are right about Supreme sending a common offer letter to all captains and FO.. i tried to negotiate for the Captains salary, but was denied royally!!

the HR mentioned they cant have different packages for their pilots (which sounds fair)!!



and yes - its going to be VT registered, not N.. they have obtained the NOC from the DGCA to import an operate 6 Caravans!!!

they need like 96 pilots total.. lot of flying..

the other facts i called and cleared with HR at Supreme:

yes, they would not pay any thing for the training or type rating.. which is strange..

however, they are not charging any money for any procedure or any advance.. so yes, its all genuine and no expenses involved..

the other good thing was, they would not let you pursue your type rating or out of pocket expenses, unless the DGCA and government of India clears you for appointing as a pilot with Supreme.. once they have a green signal, they would discuss the offer once again with you, sign a contract, 2 weeks training in USA at YOUR expense, land in India and start flying..

@ van driver

negative.. i went there for the interview..

i had like 1000 questions on my mind so i chose to clear with the CEO who was present there..

he is a rude, arrogant man..

but anyways, i got all the information needed and hence i am sharing with you all..

Cool, nice to know about the company, I really hope they start very soon.
Looks like you really did good with the interview as your Facebook profile mention you have already joined Supreme as Asst. Chief Operating Officer.

https://www.facebook.com/ca.garodia?fref=ts

Congrats

I am happy for you

All the Best with the Job.
Thank for all the Info
TC

Mohit,

For six vans you would need 36 pilots max. 96????? Where did you get that number from?

Supreme JOKE
 

How many times are thy going to recruit pilots? Plus these guys are even asking money from already type rated Pilots on Caravan. Company's so called "Offer Letter" states that they would hire on a contract of 1 year.. that means that after spending huge amount what do you get in return.??? 700$ a month!! and Yes not just the CEO, but the entire management is rude, arrogant and has no respect for their employees, and I even heard from a Chief Pilot from XYZ company that there is a lobby of Caravans operator's who are now trying to bully people. they will hire them, ask them to pay for their training, pay them salary from their own deposited money(INR 15 LAKHS) , and ask them to leave the company after an year to make way for another bunch of JA who would happily pay for their training etc.. and the cycle continues... so no to these CARVANs CANNIBALs..

you are associated with Supreme Aviation since 2010 according to your facebook profile, then how come you met the CEO, the so called arrogant man just a few days back....

Also you have been offered a position by the HR of the company that you are already associated with in the capacity of a Asst COO?? Waaaoo..:D:D

Also if you have been offered a position on the Carvan, you must be having an Indian Licence but according to my sources in the DGCA, no one with your name is holding any licence whatsoever.. Something really fishy here... guys lets try to unearth these buggers lets get as much info as we can on them...... they are a bunch of cheats ..

It wont be surprising if the Mohits's PPRUNE profile is fake and operated by some one else from Supreme as Mohit doesnt seem to be from aviation background (according to his facebook profile), just like first few post were marked by Admin as those were planted by Supreme aviation itself.

Even I wonder what happened to the pilots who were recruited in last recruitment by Supreme for Caravan(If any joined). 15 lakhs for Caravan is too much, you can get your rating for 8000$ from Pan-Am or Max 13000$ from Flight safety.

this is what i got when i googled about them.. now you can see for yourself..

FAA probes Addison flying school after license questions arise | wfaa.com Dallas - Fort Worth

Flying takes training, but what if the instructor teaching you wasn't licensed to do so?
One North Texas man has filed a complaint with the FAA against Supreme Aviation in Addison for that very reason. Now, there's a full blown investigation.
For AJ Williams, flying has always been a dream. So, he went for it, choosing to get his license with Supreme Aviation in Addison. But, an hour before his final exam, he learned one of his teacher's, Amit Agarwal, didn't have an instructor's license.

"It was shocking," he said. "It was definitely shocking."

The FAA says Supreme Aviation is under investigation. As the probe is under way, they are only allowed to rent planes out.
Agarwal surrendered his ability to fly tours around Dallas, which Supreme Aviation heavily advertised.
"He was giving those aerial tours without a commercial license," Williams said.

Agarwal agreed to talk with News 8 because he said he believes he has done nothing wrong, citing a policy called Part 61.

"Under that regulation, anyone can do training anywhere in the country," he said. "So, we are flying; we are flying every day; we are training every day."

The FAA is building its case against the group following several complaints that Supreme Aviation doesn't comply with federal requirements.
Agarwal admitted he doesn't have a license to teach in the United States, but claimed he does have such licenses from Australia, Asia and other "different countries."

"I'm not teaching here," he said.

But, his name and signature were on log sheets, which he later admitted. He said he had taught Williams on "a few flights."

"I don't understand how they are continuing to be able to fly the planes and provide training even after all of this," Williams said.

For Williams, he's out $100 in flight time and worries Agarwal could be putting people in danger.

"Not only, 'Here I'll take your money to give you training I'm not suppose to give you, but I'll also sign you off to fly cross country,'" he said.

That is something only an instructor can approve.

Williams switched flight schools and made up the hours spent with Agarwal. However, he said he still wants to see Supreme Aviation grounded.