A320 Zero Time
 

Hey Guys,

Does anyone know what companies in Asia hire FO's with zero time on type?

Thanks!

None. Maybe you should have asked that before you did the rating.

Air Asia group hires people rated with zero hours on type across their group whether it is India, Japan, Philippines, Malaysia , Thailand and Indonesia.

Just need to know the right people and build your connections. viola!

pilotchute, you got to learn to stay updated with the aviation industry mate.

Thanks Guys!

Doing the TR was the Best thing I ever did! Just a Little bit of hope Req ;)

IM sure they are more Airlines who can take with zero hours..

Still open for suggestions.

Indonesia has just brought in a new regulation for foreign pilots that they need to have 250 hours on type before being able to work there. As for other airlines in Asia, it's very unlikely in this climate as you're competing against many who already have hours on type from Europe and the US whose airlines have closed due to economic slow down there. It may have been possible in the past for those who already had 1000 of hours on other types or operations... I know one guy who was lucky in this way and is now an A320 captain.

Try Air Asia Japan (and Air Asia India) Jetstar Japan & also try with Skymark, the T&C's are nothing to write home about, but it might get you the foot in the door. Good luck

Air Asia Thailand wont entertain you, probably Malaysia too. DCA ruling from both countrys make it pretty impossible. Last I heard was India the same due to alot of unemployed Local Pilots?
Good luck anyway.

Yep, Thai Air asia and Malaysia don't except expat due to DCA requirement. Though, they used to exchange pilots(capt.) from within the company group due to pilot shortage! Goodluck

PS. Including Thai smile , Bangkok air and Thai airways same condition.

India...Locals only
Thailand... 4 thais x farang working there according with their labour law. They only want foreigners to invest money there...so (almost) Locals only
Japan...Japanese license required in most of the airlines, including Jetstar Japan ( take a look in their careers website)
Indonesia...the new 250 hours rule which most sure is going to be increased (hopefully)

If you are in US....stay there and try to build some time on type. It seems easier to get a position there.

Good Luck.

Give it a try anyway, neither Jetstar Japan nor Air Asia Japan are getting many applicants that are JCAB rated, with the T&C's they are offering, not many people are jumping ship and the poaching from other airlines has pretty much ran its course, there have been a few guys that were hired already without the JCAB license. The situation at Air Asia Japan and Jetstar will be pretty tight by this summer so give it a try:ok:

Agree, but EIAI is a zero hours on type guy...actually and regarding Japan, his possibilities to be hired would increase with a JCAB license.
However we don´t know his previous experience, total time, jet/tbp time...

0 Turbine time. Hey, we need to start somewhere...

How do you apply Directly to Air Asia Japan And Jetstar Japan?

Thanks Guys!

IXUXU

This ( 4 Thai employees for every foreign employee) is for the issue of work permits is any permitted occupation in any industry allowed under the Alien Employment Act, not just related to aviation.

ZFT,

Sorry but I don´t understand your clarification. I´m not saying this rule applies to aviation only, but it certainly does since a pilot is a worker and in this case a foreign worker. The point is, in Thailand the hiring of expatriates is expensive, not only because they must keep the 4-1 rule. The minimum allowed salary, by law, for an expatriate is higher than for a local.


EIAI

Of course we need to start somewhere...from the bottom mate. First time I put my ass in an A320 cockpit I already had 7000 hrs and almost 4000 as a turboprop captain..from C172, C421, Metroliners, Embraer 120, ATR....A320
I´m not blaming you for wanting to start your career in a shinny jet but maybe you´re putting yourself in a difficult situation...

IXUXU
The hiring of expatriates anywhere tends to be expensive because they (we) are only being employed because the local market cannot supply the skills. As countries develop, the expat requirements diminish. Thai minimum salaries I would suggest are so low to be immaterial. Whilst Thailand tends to be overly protective, the fact that the major carriers have no need to look beyond their own borders for crews (any longer) indicates that they have developed sufficiently to satisfy their own needs, unlike their neighbours.

aeroniono,

I do stay updated and your statement that air asia is hiring only seems to apply if your a national of a country that air asia operate in.

Maybe you should stay up to date!

In asia if your not a local you have pretty much zero chance of getting a job. With only very few expeceptions

Elal,

How is the A320 rating the best thing you have ever done?

Dear Pilotchute,

Well its the best thing I ever done because:

1. well first, I got the cheapest price in the world so it wasn't a huge cost

2. I've earned a lot of knowledge about jets and their systems, got a clue of how to work in a cockpit with 2 pilots a little bit of CRM, practiced Instrument Approaches with a big and fast jet, got the experience of how and what to learn in a type rating course. im much more prepared now incase ill get hired and will have to study a new plane.

3. I know that without time on type its a bit useless. However, I think its better than having nothing at all. I think it shows that youre serious and youre spending time effort & money to boost up your career and knowledge.

4. I did the course with 3 highly experienced captains and learned a lot from them.

5. Would do it again!! for free of course ;)

Good luck mate but i agree with pilotchute, should have at least got a job offer before you shelled out for a rating.
If i may ask where did you do your rating and have you actually flown the ac?? or has it just been sim. I only ask as the requirements for japan jet star for an fo is
First Officer Positions

1. Minimum 1,500 hours on fixed wing aircraft (Preference will be given to applicants who have jet airline aircraft experience)
2. Minimum EFIS 500hours
3. 500 hours PIC or First Officer on multi-engine aircraft

Did it in PanAm Miami. Only the sim.

So what's your total time? Like I said above, you may have a slim chance if you have commercial experience on other types. But if you are a 250 hour TT pilot with A320 TR without having done line training, you're going to find it very tough to get a look in. Sorry, but that's the harsh reality.