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airplanedriver 2nd Apr 2013 07:20

Beware folks: VietJet playing a scam
 
Many guys been offered ridiculous terms by this unprofessional operation, they are trying to undercut paramount, please stay away from them unless ur going through paramount

tknapp 2nd Apr 2013 08:40

What kind of terms are they offering?

ironbutt57 2nd Apr 2013 08:48

are they still flying do it yourself approaches w no Jepp plates? , expired databases? etc...etc...reports from former colleagues who bailed from there

airplanedriver 2nd Apr 2013 09:34

Just had a couple of guys telling me the HR guy is trying to offer them some pittance of a deal, not sure about the operating procedures but just be careful not to go directly with them.

eaglesnest1972 2nd Apr 2013 09:58

Thanks mate for the heads up.

Flying Mechanic 2nd Apr 2013 10:08

A friend of mine was offered a deal through an agent for a 320 job.....30k Usd, and a job there......it's a bit steep for 10 K rating at Pan Am.

airplanedriver 2nd Apr 2013 10:31

Whatever they are up to, its very shady, unless thru paramount, i wouldnt trust what these guys say

tknapp 2nd Apr 2013 10:45

The contract I saw from Vietjet is the same Paramount has to offer.

airplanedriver 2nd Apr 2013 11:11

That may have been last year, paramount changed the terms in Jan. What was told to me was a flat $120/hr x the number of hrs u fly and THATS IT!! Zero Basic, Zero sector allowance... Ridiculous, but maybe there are some who might take it, sad what this job has come to

bananaman2 2nd Apr 2013 13:26

Not that i'd take it... but 120/hr doesn't seem all that bad to me but depends on where you're coming from i.e is it for capt/FO, are you experienced/non etc?? If experienced plenty of better options, I agree in the likes of China, ME even Vietnam Airlines (understand the door closed for FO but still possible for Capt)

Based on 80hrs, 120 x 80 = $9600 per month and based on a more modest 60 = $7200. Paying all salary as flt/duty pay is nothing new... just look at Ryanair and Easyjet(Flexicrew) in Europe. Must remember to look at the cost of living also compared to, Singapore, Hong Kong even the developed cities in China i.e Beijing, Shanghai.

However for me, sometimes there's more to life than just money... when i asked a colleague (who's eager to move on) about another airline recruiting recently, he replied.... 'No way, I have a family man!'

squarecrow 3rd Apr 2013 02:51

Paying a flat rate sounds like they dont know how much flying you will do, so they dont have to pay anything if you stuck on the ground.

it sound like another Dumb HR dept that think they are smart.

flyhigh320 8th Apr 2013 07:32

Hello Fellow aviators,

I would like to join the vietjet A320 cadet program. Can somebody pass me the contact details of paramount please. I am an indian CPL holder in the process of obtaining my 320 type rating... Thank You

crwkunt roll 10th Apr 2013 05:41


it sound like another Dumb HR dept that think they are smart.
They're actually quite smart, they'll pay peanuts to fools who go and buy type endorsements just to accept **** jobs with **** pay. They love it!!

airplanedriver 11th Apr 2013 08:08

Has anyone got more info regarding the new contract agency? Apparently there are a couple lined up and according to a buddy, offering the same as the Airline!! And with the new aircrafts coming i believe they will need crew desperately, but are people so desperate that they'll accept such terms??

SOPS 11th Apr 2013 13:28

Just how many Indian CPL holders, that have payed for an A320 type rating are there? They seem to be everywhere.
And ny info is they don't run a cadet programme, I could be wrong of course.

tknapp 12th Apr 2013 05:36

Same contract as Paramount, You get a base pay plus fifty hours flight pay plus pay for 25 sectors. Guys are flying 90+ hours a month. So extra pay anything over 50 hour and over 25 sectors. I'm not to sure about the cadet pay

airplanedriver 12th Apr 2013 11:26

Tknapp are u sure the same terms as paramount are offered by the airline? Also are the new agencies also offering the same?

Fikke 13th Apr 2013 10:08

Dont pay for type
 
They donīt take anymore cadets in. Do not pay for typerating without a job guys, its waste of money. There is coming 4 new planes, but 3 of them are wet leased and there are already lots of pilots waiting for their line trg to start. You need at least 500h on type to get even an interview. Only if you are vietnamise citizen you may have a chance, but you are probably indian so dont waste your time and money for this.

HornetDrvr 22nd Apr 2013 03:51

AVOID VIETJET AT ALL COSTS!!!!! Imagine everything bad about an airline, and you will find it there.

tknapp 22nd Apr 2013 08:55

Hey Hornet Drvr, Are you working there now? I saw from your previous posts it looked like you worked at Air Mekong. Are you back in the States flying a RJ for the regionals? or did Vietjet pick you up? I don't recall any other Americans other than a few Viet Q other than myself here. Whats so bad about it? The only difference between VNA and Vietjet is

1.Younger more friendly cabin crew at Vietjet
2.As a Captain you can make more at Vietjet than VNA
3.Changing schedules every day normal stuff in Vietnam
4.VNA you can have a crew meal every leg if you want
5.The only bad is a self funded insurance if you go through Paramount.
6.MX, I have had more MELs in the States than here in Vietnam.
You don't have the FAA breathing down your neck to write up every stupid little thing.

If you are out here and you don't like it leave! Im sure you will make more money flying in the States with ASA I believe all you guys came from, might be wrong though.


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