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flying.monkeyz 2nd Dec 2012 09:12

Jetstar Asia Cadets to attend Groundschool in Singapore
 
Heard from reliable sources that CAE is in the process of setting up a ground school in their new building in Seletar, and all 3K cadets will attend ground school there before heading to Melbourne for flight training.

JGSE 2nd Dec 2012 11:28

It's great to hear that, while Jetstar Asia pilots are flying 60 hours a month and earning basic salary, they will hire cadets from Oxford. Who will profit from this???

TOPGUN777 3rd Dec 2012 13:18

Hi there,

Do you know how soon are they going to establish the grdschool? Cheers!

N5748E 21st Mar 2013 13:19

G/sch
 
Not gonna happen so soon. As of now, all still fly to the UK to do ground training in Kidlington, Oxford. From what I know there are 4 cadets who just finished ground school a couple of days ago.

flying.monkeyz 22nd Mar 2013 02:25

CAE is working on opening up a ground school at their sim centre at Seletar sometime this year. Subsequent batches will most probably do their ground school in Singapore before heading over to Melbourne for flight training.

sgcloudchaser 5th Aug 2013 19:50

anyone applying for the CAE 3K?
any idea when are the assessments and interviews?
how many courses will there be and what are the intake figures?
appreciated.

sgcloudchaser 6th Aug 2013 16:02

seems like many are also attending the assessment by CAE for 3K...

dagger19 6th Aug 2013 17:23

yup, i have seen the A320 sims there, and its pretty impressive...

N5748E 7th Aug 2013 00:20

Ground school
 
Many will apply, but many also go AWOL once they realize they have to cough up aud37,190 for ground school, aud74,310 for flying phase, and finally aud31,000 for type endorsement. The finance scheme by RHB bank is almost impossible to acquire because you need someone willing to be your "sponsor" with a sizable income to be eligible for the loan.

Stallone 7th Aug 2013 00:40

if i not wrong, RHB allows multiple guarantors.

but then, maximum loan is SGD100,000

N5748E 7th Aug 2013 01:24

RHB.
 
Up to six guarantor, max of sgd$100,000, so another sgd$65,000 you'll have to source on your own. Not including living expenses and beer money for the 18-24 mths of training.

dagger19 7th Aug 2013 05:50

But you are secured with a flying position at d end of the day.
I think its a reasonable deal. In fact I think its an opportunity. =)

SOPS 7th Aug 2013 09:58

And dagger19 answer sums up exactly why this industry finds itself in the mess it is in today.

N5748E 7th Aug 2013 11:26

Job security.
 
No such thing in this industry. When you pass the final round there's a "letter of intention" they will give you which clearly states even if you pass the course, you are not promised a job due to a variety of reasons.

All the new cadet schemes are just milking the cash rich parents with kids who desperately wanna play "pilot".

dagger19 7th Aug 2013 15:12

so what is your suggestion for aspiring pilots? =)
at least to me its a reasonable and realistic path to fly a big jet.

N5748E 7th Aug 2013 21:06

Join the RSAF, fly with them for the MTE or minimum term of engagement. Once you finish, CAAS has in place a long course, short course or helicopter conversion/RSAF <700 TT (fixed wing) depending on what you flew and how much you flew.

That is the "cheapest" way to become a pilot, and the best part the first 2 years counts as your national service, OR, if you wait LOOOOOOONNNNGGGG enough, you might be able to try for Singapore Airlines, but who knows, I might be dead by the time they open selection up again...

Stallone 8th Aug 2013 03:18

getting into rsaf is even harder than getting into airlines.

SQ? Those who got in in 2010 is not being able to touch the real jet until 2015 at least, on a meagre pay of less than 2k/mth, think of the income lost as compared to this 18mth course and straight into the jet.

dream747 8th Aug 2013 05:12

To be honest and indeed fair, there is no job security anywhere. Going to university for a degree doesn't guarantee you a job after one graduates as well. Understandably, the risks of choosing this path can be higher, given the large amount of money that one has to fork out and the many factors present that can prevent you from getting that job at the end of the day.

If you go through the list, cadets who have successfully completed the course all have a job with their respective airlines; at least, without consideration of external and factors that can affect the industry, the airlines have the intention to employ.

I guess at the end of the day, you have to consider all the risks and factors and make an informed decision. Jobs are not guaranteed, but nothing in life is, and I might go as far as to say that opportunities to be a professional pilot have never been this many made available to locals today.

flying.monkeyz 11th Aug 2013 08:28

Regardless of nationality, if you aspire to be a pilot, just go and do it. Weigh all side of the risk vectors and make an inform decision.

I know a lot of people have strike it rich with real estate. But at the end of the day, that's not what I want and that's not what I'll be good at.

The route to a flying job is long and full of hurdles, obstacles, and countless people telling you things like you shouldn't do it / you're wasting your time... etc. If you really want to fly, you'll need a lot of determination, access to sh1t load of money, contingency plans in case it doesn't work out for whatever reason(s), and luck!

Maverick16 13th Aug 2013 03:24

SIA Cadet Pilot Recruitment
 
Hi Stallone,

How do you know those cadets who were accepted into the SIA Cadet program in 2010 are still "grounded"? SIA was still recruiting till December 2011.


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