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Fubaliera 30th Dec 2011 01:37

Air Macau loses it authority to upgrade internally
 
Besides having 2 Pilots suspended according to the Macau Daily News for not communicating with atc, that opened a can of worms and in macau civil aviation authority latest audit, they decided among other things to cancel its upgrade program. Thats an all time low even for Air Macau. Whats next

CrazyStuntPilot 30th Dec 2011 02:30

Upgrades are only suspended until the company introduces changes according to the AACM requirements

Fubaliera 30th Dec 2011 06:28

I just heard thru the great vine that what happened was the capt, a portuguese/angolan national overflew military airspace and was escorted down with 2 mililary jet sand they were placed in jail for a week in china. On top off all that even though suspended thier still on air macau payroll. Anybody from airmacau care to comment, how about the chief pilot. His best friend

Fubaliera 30th Dec 2011 22:08

On another note, Chief Pilots son or stepson, quit before getting fired and daddy couldnt save him, so he shipped him off. detail to incindent in the works

dmacnz 31st Dec 2011 13:10

The loss of coms there was no jets, no jail. No need to stir it up more then the papers already are I don't feel.

Fubaliera 1st Jan 2012 00:45

They are stiring this up themselves, chief evil:E pilot firing stepson, If that airline was a reality tv show, with all its misfits in managment, it would win a award. Instead of Air Macau they should call it Air My god
:D

Marsu Bestana 1st Jan 2012 11:16

Sleeping beauties
 
Its not that hard to figure out some things; seems like CP stepson got tired of CM roostering him to fly wet lease while his son is visiting him, so he resigned and is about to go back to Banana Republic. Meanwhile, VPFO is busy trying to explain authorities why the Cpt. that had the loss of COMM was upgraded regardless of have failed the written test.
Fubaliera, after AMU, Turkish, Cebu, wherever you are now you should be taking care of how not to get fired again. Macau is past for you, move on...
The fact is, there is no more AMU...once CP resigns, CA all have occupied all strategical positions in the company's management... not a promising future at all...:ok:

Fubaliera 1st Jan 2012 21:32

Sorry marsu, but never got fired from any place. We see what side your on
:suspect:

Marsu Bestana 2nd Jan 2012 04:03

Im on the side of the fair and real. Seems like your posts are to create gossips and confusion. Maybe you didn't get fired because you were kindly invited to leave. Again, you should mind about your own business, after all you cannot hide behind a computer all the time. Eventually we will meet. And I rather shake your hand instead of shaking your world.

Fubaliera 2nd Jan 2012 08:06

I was never invited to leave, actually asked not to leave. And I know who your are, believe or not. Whats the point of pprune if its not spreading rumors you moron. Actually I have noting against Air Macau, wish it would have been a proper airline because Macau is a great place. But I never forget, and thier a few south americans (chief Pilot) whos gonna get his pay day soon and I cant wait

Marsu Bestana 2nd Jan 2012 09:18

Yeah, you are right. Im the moron. And the moron here, since you know who i am, challenges you to give a date and time to have a coffee together.
What's your words?????

Marsu Bestana 2nd Jan 2012 14:56

No my friend. Its not normal. Many people will say a lot about Air Macau. Some puerto riquenhos will post B.S even after been kicked out years ago. Others will see the bad sides without giving any help. My point of view is: Air Macau is filled with 3 kind of pilots: the ones that cannot go anywhere else, either because are chinese that screwed up here enough not to be accepted anywhere else, and also good pilots that are about to retire or got roots in macau, the guys that are still running for at least 1500 PIC time and are about to be upgraded, and the ones that still haven't realized they now work for Air China, for less than 10K a month(US dollars). The ones that are not one of these 3 groups are leaving, slowly but continuously. First officers are treated like animals and if Im not mistaken, if they stop to come, planes will be grounded. So my advise is go to some airline that has a decent management, decent commercial department, and has grown in the past 5 years. Air Macau has not gone an inch forward towards any kind of success, and still thinks pilots are just around the corner.
Don't blame VPFO, CP or any other FLT OPS head. Blame the whole system this company works on... the rest, even if ****ting on their own backyard, are nothing but victims....
If the pilots don't get together now, sit down and take over the situation, there will be no more Air Macau as we know it. And the bad news is: pilots are selfish, full of S... and will never have the balls to get together and take over the controls. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me....

dmacnz 2nd Jan 2012 16:14

Super pilot.
I think you may of read the contract wrong unless it has changed within the last few weeks!
The bond is normally 30k or 40k if you are inexperienced. This can be paid up front or through salary reductions. 95% of people at present opt for this. The $40 a day is only while training (Normally only a few months) but remembering you get free hotel and breakfast.( $40 in Macau can buy enough food for dinner and beers!). Once checked to line you are on full salary minus reductions of 1,2 or three years of your choice.
Might be a little out of date but still very similar conditions!

ZAV 2nd Jan 2012 20:49

dmacn you speak bs....... the training bond is for all even when they are already type rated and to be expected to live on per diems when there is a PILOT SHORTAGE get real

Eyes of Truth 2nd Jan 2012 21:39

Bestana, don't be so quick to come to the defense of the bastard son of the Chief Pilot.

He had a report made against him whilst doing the wet lease in Beijing and due to the scrutiny which Air Macau is now under by both AACM and Air China, something would have to be done about the report. Daddy probably advised him to just quit rather then putting both of them through the embarassement of an enquiry into the matter.

dmacnz 3rd Jan 2012 02:33

Zav, maybe my reply wasn't clear. I said the bond is 30k or if have low experience is 40k. Yes everyone pays a bond.
Do I agree with the bond and training pay. No! But was just trying to clear it up for someone who may of needed a job or some clarification!

Marsu Bestana 3rd Jan 2012 04:06

Eyes... thats absolutely right... and thats my point...now, you get a report from Air China, something must be done. No matter if you are right or wrong. No matter who you are. Its well known what CA cabin crew have been doing lately...captains that never smoked were reported for smoking. And so on... the question is? if you mess up with them, and get a report, what will happen to you? Because something must be done right? You may be wearing the 4 bars, but you nor any other CPT in AMU is the authority on board anymore. And who is to blame? Nobody but ourselves. Sorry if some of you don't agree, it's just my opinion. Regarding his son being bastard or not, stepson or not, it's not my problem and it shouldn't be yours as well. After all, everything happens here. Pilots marry prostitutes, fight in layovers, and so on... my word is: let's focus on fixing this thing, or on getting a job soon. That's a fact. We can use this to spread rumors, like some fellows guys do it, or we can use this to clarify and help to maintain the truth above all in this international forum, thus saving our image as pilots here.

Marsu Bestana 3rd Jan 2012 04:21

And last but not least... There are confirmed sources that states that the the man has kept a huge number of reports regarding safety issues, disciplinary issues and evidences collected somehow (maybe with the advantage of being close to CP) like pilots failing upgrade tests, bad sim records during upgrades, altered documents by CM and so on which will be given to AACM, ICAO, IATA, CAAC, and all kind of authorities ... and we all know how this company unfortunately deals with these matters. It won't be long before the S*** hit the fan...:eek::uhoh::sad::yuk:

santosdumontpa 3rd Jan 2012 10:05

Dear Mr Fubaliera
 
Dear Cebu Fedaliera...:ok:

How on earth does what is happening in Air Macau affect you??? Everyone knows who you are......get over it....YOU DONT WORK HERE ANYMORE!!
You must either be very bitter with the circumstances of your "resignation" or suffering from some incurable jealousy of the people you keep commenting on in your posts. I do seem to remember a while back you begging instructors to come back......
Before you go pointing out what is wrong about Air Macau i would recommend you taking a long hard look in the mirror... maybe then you will be able to answer the question to your HUGE problem....
Im not saying Air Macau doesn't have some huge issues right now, but as a passed employee you have no business talking about it...you lost those privileges the day you thankfully left.

Time to grow up fast FIRST OFFICER. :=

Fubaliera 4th Jan 2012 09:33

First of all, Im a Captain now thank you. Secondly anything that goes wrong with CP/ or his bastard child make me very happy. An eye for an eye. By the way ill comment all I want.:mad:you

donaldduck91 21st Jan 2012 17:52

Hi everybody

is there again some resignation of fo at this moment ? wet lease is still in amu ? Thanks

Omega_ice8 8th Feb 2012 13:13

Funny
 
you are so off ..My friend

donaldduck91 4th Mar 2012 12:35

not so funny like you !
 
so off of what ??? := I know some fo at air macau and i know how is the life there by them so if you want to hide the reality it s your buisness but don t say i m off and stop your dreams !:ugh:

Madp1lot 10th Aug 2012 00:48

Hi guys!

Any chance to get some updated info about Air Macau?
Sent my CV already, but not much updated info around.

cheers.

flyingsebi 11th Aug 2012 04:17

As far as i know here's the story.

Earlier this year, their cargo operation collapsed and most of their pilots were retrained on the 320.
As a result they have a sufficient amount of pilots for now, and all hiring was put on a hold till further notice.
Maybe october....maybe before...maybe later....

So far no news.....I'm waiting patiently.....they are the only decent company to hire Zero time pilots on type.....no need to pay for line training like citilink etc...

Good luck to all.

GulfEagle 15th Sep 2012 15:03

Yeah
 
Certainly!

Air Macau it's not a recomendable Airlines for all reasons. Any doubt? just have a look át.
. All tose funny stories along last 5 years or so .... the way Staff is treated and disrespected, safety, maintenace, aircraft status, etc... Boxing scenes at The airport on the gate bridge between pilots and so...
Horrendus to say the least...bunch of freaks....

Arrowhead 12th Oct 2012 08:41

Sebi I think you will find that the cargo division didnt "collapse". The new CEO immediately stopped the A300s when he arrived, since it was bleeding so much money.

The A300s havent been flown at NX for 2 years now, and it took that much time to get the local authority to approve an internal A320 type rating course to bring the pilots over from the A300. They should start soon, but its just taken a long time to get the course approved and the pilots trained.


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