Fuel
 

Anybody know what's the fuel carriage policy is at AIrAsia?do they carry good amount of fuel for holding and alternate?

malaysiacadet,

Your anger had clouded your wisdom. I'm pointing at the cheap skate management and not at the pilots! If you are a pilot with AA, it is sad to hear that you wish this could happen to me. If you're AA management,then shame on you!

Accident could happen to anyone. KCH is well known for its unfavorable weather.

What bugs me about this incident is the lack of escape slides in any of the picture seen. In another forum it was said that the slides were removed right after; granted that all the photos circulating were taken the morning after. I wonder if it is a normal practice to remove the slides after an accident.

gentlemens, pardon me,

but why are we talking about American Airlines all of sudden?

AA = Air Asia in this case I suppose

Lesenterbang:" accidents could happen to anyone"
How fatalist! NO! Accidents are mostly due to:
- unproper training management
- lack of safety culture in the management
- very low hours pilots with average or substandard training
and the main causes of runway excursion are:
- unstabilised approach
-too high; too fast; tailwind; crosswind
-inclement weather

in this case the runway length was more than enough, and it seems there was no crosswind.

But NO, accidents are not only a fatality!:ugh:

Probably from the idea of removing slides and closing the doors
to stop further heavy rain getting into the cabin.

Er...no.

Undercarriage Doors
 

I notice from the photograph that the undercarriage doors are open.

Considering that the doors almost reach the ground when open and the aircraft is standing normally and from the photographs the doors look pretty well buried in the mud, perhaps this aircraft had a gear or brake or steering problem prior to landing. If the BSCU was inop' then they may have had all three problems.

Just a thought.

Great to hear its a technical that caused it and not the pilots! You must be privy to some serious info!

a345xxx, if you are referring to my post the answer is "No". I make those assumptions based on photographs I have seen on the 'net.

Whats the BSCU got to do with the Landing Gear doors? LGCIU?
The Doors normally only remain open with gear down if you use the emerg Crank.
Regards,,

kwaiyai, "What has the BSCU to do with Landing Gear Doors?" - absolutely nothing, but everything to do with steering and brakes. My posting was some options observed from the photographs I have seen.

All will be revealed soon I hope.

All will be revealed soon I hope?
Like what Chum? your post is frankly weird,
You say the undercarriage doors are open right.
Then U say They may have had a steering prob BF Landing Right?
Like I said if you dont see what is weird with your post
I wont comment, nor can b bothered,
Have a nice life,

Gear doors open, for whatever reason, usually means no nosewheel steering - If the BSCU was inop' then all braking functions and nosewheel steering are affected.

As far as all will be revealed; No doubt the relevant Transport Safety Board will have an investigation and hopefully publish their findings so we can all learn from this unfortunate event.

There is no malice in my postings, just observation and comment.

I don't think any pilot would land with HYD/brakes problem in 800m visibility and wet runway. Most likely the departure from runway had jolted the doors open and the broken nose wheel would had the HYD drained thus no hyd pressure to hold the doors closed. Just guessing.

Gents remember that the Landing gear cycle is alternately controlled by LGCIU 1 & 2. A BSCU failure would not effect the Land Gear cycle.

If both LGCIUs are faulty or a loss of the green/dual hydraulic failure then you would drop the gear manually.

Plus, maybe someone dropped the doors after the incident to inspect the damage to the bay!???

I'm just amazed AirAsia hasn't made a smoking hole in the ground yet!!! :bored: And I hope they don't.

Interview
 

During Air Asia interview there are this two guys telling everyone how Air Asia is the only Airline knows how to fly Airbus and the way Air Asia operate is the best way in the world .

Well according to incidents in past we all can question that statements !

This overrun is not first time it become a trend and there must be a problem in Air Asia training or other policy .

If they don't smell their own fart and tell the whole world how rosy the smell is, who else would?? ..........:yuk:

VR :cool:

Are the two guys AK pilots or management? It would be interesting because TF also talks big about how great his operators are and he is not a pilot!!!

When AirAsia got it's first A320s, two management pilots, back in 2005, landed out of configuration and fast in Kutching. The result was four main wheels blown.

The excuse was flap problems. A friend of mine, who I will not name, was one of the engineers sent with airbus reps to understand what went wrong. Result, nothing to do with the plane, but he was instructed along with the Airbus guys to say it was a flap problem. :hmm:

Sadly, if AirAsia does eventually make its smoking hole, I doubt anything would be learn or changed.

Follow the money!!! :rolleyes: