Hi!

May, 2010, hiring 40 expat FOs.

cliff
LFW

TWNPPL...

Problem is not the expats TWNppl, its the company. CAL and probably EVA. They are not up front about the job. When I went many years ago they were telling us whatever they needed to to get us on property and flying airplanes. "We want to to have a successful career with us, promote to Capt one day, and enjoy living in Taiwan". ... also... "the contract time is just to establish your salary. It will be renewed with a new rate"...and "you will be treated equally .. we treat all employees equally".. and my personal favourite!..... "if you care about us...we care about you". LOL. What a joke!

LIES LIES LIES!

Instead it should go like this:

"This is a temporary job offer for the time specificed at the salary specificed, will incure local taxes, has no pension, no severance benefit, and has very extremely little chance for promotion as we will favour the chinese pilots (unless we are totally desparate), and will come with a heavy bond that you will have to pay if you try to leave".

Do you think it would be easy for CAL/EVA to hire guys if they told the truth?

The problem is your management, and you already know that.

That is why we use it as a stepping stone (take and leave), because as soon as we spend a little time there...(and most of us actually enjoy the time working with you actually), we can see the reality, so we politely do our work and start looking. Then we leave!

You want to have expats that are loyal? Then stop treating them like worthless dogs, and start treating them like colleagues and professionals and equal people, as we treat you in our home country.

Predjudice is alive and well in Formosa!

Don't be a paranoid prick. They don't just deceive expats. Locals get the beatings as well. Just to make the point, in the last few months they have failed many many many locals for pic upgrade. So take your paranoid bs elsewhere. But to a certain extent locals will be looked upon more favorably, but not by much. This is their country afterall. And btw, when I joined they never mentioned upgrading, better money, have a life long career with us... It's take it or leave it.

Dbssa,

You are quite confusing. I have seen some of your posts, and you seem to say its terrible there, but that you like it.

I have no reason to deceive anyone, as I got out when I saw that it was dead end. Contrary to you... I did ask questions in my interview and was blown a bunch of XXXX. What did you do? giggle... and ask what color their airplanes were?
As a result, it was a huge waste of time as there were many other oportunities out there as there still are now. So after seeing that I was lied too...I used the very same business ethic that was applied to me. Looked after no 1.

"to a certain extent locals will be looked upon more favorably, but not by much".

TOTALLY false. There is no hope for expats promotion. 1 in 200 might get it just to keep the other fools inline. Dont let them lead you down this path. If you don't expect it..then you won't be dissapointed. Get the type rating and go...

I don't know what guys like TWNPPL want. They want you to stay down as FO and be a doormat... then they want you to be the first to get fired when things get bad... and then get upset when we pull a runner. Such sore losers.

Anyway Dbssa did get one thing right. its "take it or leave it"...but its also - DEAD END.

Dear guys,

I don´t know if EVA is one of the best places to go or not, but for some of us is gonna be the only oportunity to continue flying in that difficult moments for the industry.

I would hardly appreciatte if instead of discussing you could helps us telling what may we expect on the screening process. And it would also be great to have info about how is live once you move there (rosters, local live, conditions of accomodation, if you really have 8 days off together..)

Thank you very much and good flights!

:ugh: Eva is well known as a company with good safety records, but unfortunately its not a choice, but the last resort... I was approved to fly 747 as F/O a long time ago, but after have met my friends there during the screening I changed my mind in time.
No changes so far, low salaries, license not recognized in many other countries, quite long time to be promoted... And besides that you will live inside the company.
I am sure you dont need to go too low!