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Okie 29th Jun 2009 12:20

Kingfisher rising like a phoenix
 
The other thread was getting too long. Why don't we try a positive title as Kingfisher has changed quite a lot over the last few months. Just as there were positive posts in the old, negative titled thread; negative posts are welcome in this positive titled thread.

leftseatview 29th Jun 2009 15:25

yes that should work fine......since the titanic was taking its own sweet time too!
In other news,hope the Air Force paints some turn pad guide lines,while kingfisher gets its many new Capts to practice pivotal 180 turns on the Runway.

IndAir967 29th Jun 2009 16:02


yes that should work fine......since the titanic was taking its own sweet time too!
In other news,hope the Air Force paints some turn pad guide lines,while kingfisher gets its many new Capts to practice pivotal 180 turns on the Runway.
hee hee gud one :}

leftseatview 30th Jun 2009 16:33

After the Exudus....
 
Air India is not renewing the contracts of its retired pilots.
Some are trying to get into Kingfisher.
So looks like the exudus is stemmed for at least a bit
Meanwhile those stayng put in KFR are not complaining,as the flying has increased!

320capt. 1st Jul 2009 04:24

Mallya looking to sell Equity
 
Clearly if the frequent reports by the likes of Economic Times are to be believed, Mallya is looking to sell some equity ( SIA, BA Indigo partners) to anyone wlling to pay HIS price. The problem for Mallya is anyone willing to buy will want management control.. will he be willing to give that??

should make things interesting in the coming months if that dose happen. In current enviroment any money other than high price Debt is very difficult to come by.

Too many incidents of late.. and mostly basic errors.. a bit disconcerting i might add. Anyway we carry on in the uncertain enviroment hoping boss has a plan.

Cheers to all keeping the faith.:hmm:

Sky Dancer 1st Jul 2009 09:20

The fact is that if you were to look at the state of Kingfisher from a pure finance point of view , there really isn't much hope for it's survival unless there is an outside party willing to invest and take the responsibility of the huge debt burden.Better than that would be to start another airline.On the other hand if Dr.Mallya is willing to off load substantial stakes in his other companies to keep KF afloat then yes it would survive.But if you want long term stability it's high time that KF have a man who is aviation savy and who has a free hand in running the airline.Alex Wilcox was the right man..unfortuantely KF lost him...:ok:

condorbaaz 1st Jul 2009 18:01

here is what wall street thinks..
 
SpiceJet, Kingfisher Expect to Break Even This Financial Year - WSJ.com

bepositive1 2nd Jul 2009 05:49

Wonder How much he would sell ??
Long time back VJM said KFA is his baby and always would be !!

rubik101 3rd Jul 2009 07:04

When you reflect that Kingfisher 320 made his new thread in October of 2008 with the dire warning that inevitable sinking was imminent, you can see that he is probably not the one to suggest your lottery numbers!

Many posters on the thread seemed only too delighted at the prospect of the airline going bust. I wish all the nasty plagues imaginable on them and your daughters and wish Kingfisher and all their employees the very best of luck!

heavenbound 6th Jul 2009 08:25

sinking......still
 
kfa's debts have mounted further and whoever gives them money will not be in the right frame of mind.

any idea whats happened to the two A330s still lying unused? one i believe one is a christmas tree.:eek:

condorbaaz 6th Jul 2009 13:02

apparently zey have not made salary payments till now...

phoenix getting singed???

manjeet2253 7th Jul 2009 03:23

IndAir967
 
Please check your PM sir.

scorpilot 7th Jul 2009 09:57

you think its funny
 
I am amazed and disappointed by the comments of some in this post...indair and figure of...

An airline has an incident where the wingtip gets damaged by a shelter in an airforce airport....and you guys make a joke about it...are you professional pilots or a bunch of " desperate housewives" ...get a life !

IndAir967 7th Jul 2009 15:09

:{kingfisher plane hit an air force bunker:{

I think now i sound professional eh:p?
Cheers:ok:

scorpilot 10th Jul 2009 04:31

professionalism
 
losers!...hope you enjoy reading about your own airline when someone writes in a similar vein..its amazing how KF evokes such strong interest even now...and no I dont fly the ACJ!

moderate 10th Jul 2009 05:51

Showing their interest in any company in these desperate times need not say much of that company.............that it is poorly run by a very corrupt 'team' is very obvious to many in this field so lets not live in denial here.

To safe-guard your own interests there and for the sake of the staff living day-to-day, it would be best that its faults are discussed more openly.

Hopefully, VJM would get to know these things (hope he picks some comments of pprune......but it may not be to his glossy liking...) and think of putting them right.........may not be too late even now.
But if people wish to live in denial........:confused::confused::confused:

scorpilot 10th Jul 2009 10:03

@ moderate
 
...you are probably one of the 340 guys and I empathise with you...if not point taken.

i am just specifically pointing out to how some members revel in making a joke out of an aviation incident, could have happened to any one of us...its got nothing to do with the financial turmoil or corruption!

we all love our jobs not necessarily our employers:=

condorbaaz 10th Jul 2009 11:12

when the reports of taxi incident it will probably show f/o was noting clearance, there were no guidelines and the air force as usual had no taxi guide lines for non mil ac. all contributory but the pilot Captain takes the fall...

Sky Dancer 10th Jul 2009 18:58

Point well said.It's easy to laugh at another's mistakes but it takes a professional pilot to try and understand the circumstances that caused it and try and avoid it himself and also to share that knowledge with fellow pilots so that is doesn't happen to anyone else in future.My sympathies with the crew ...:{:ok:

scorpilot 11th Jul 2009 13:57

the latest
 
some sane contributions...thanks!

Mumbai, July 11, 2009—Kingfisher Airlines, India’s premier five star airline, today announced a roadmap for the next phase of its international route network.



2 New Routes Announced out of Mumbai

Beginning September 2009, Kingfisher Airlines plans to launch two new flights. The two new routes will be Mumbai – Singapore and Mumbai – Hong Kong. Both will be daily direct return services and will be operated using the brand new Airbus A330-200 aircraft. Bookings for travel on these sectors are expected to be opened shortly.



3 New Routes Proposed out of New Delhi

Kingfisher Airlines has applied to the Ministry of Civil Aviation to commence operations on the New Delhi – London – New Delhi sector. The flights on this route will also be operated using the Airbus A330-200 and launch dates will be announced once the requisite regulatory approvals are in place. The launch of this new route will mark the first time that Kingfisher Airlines will commence international flights out of New Delhi.

Besides this route, there are plans to start flights from New Delhi to Bangkok and from New Delhi to Dubai. The flights on these two routes will be operated using the Airbus A320 / A321 aircraft.



3 New Routes Proposed out of Mumbai

There are also plans to commence flights between Mumbai and Bangkok, between Mumbai and Dubai and between Mumbai and Colombo. The flights on these routes will also be operated using the Airbus A320 / A321 aircraft.

Lets hope for the best....


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