cockpit visits at SQ on the ground
 

Hi,

a few days ago I flew from BNE to SIN and on arrival in SIN I asked the purser if I could say g'day to the pilots and have a look at the 777 cockpit (I fly turboprops in Oz)...and the purser told me that it wasn't possible due to security reasons...since I coulnd't really see the security issues I tried again explaining that we were on the ground but didnt get anywhere...I know times have changed...but please....can a SQ captain maybe explain....thanks

AB

AB,
If you could have written a nice note with your name card or ID and put in a request with the IFS (Chief Purser) during flight, you'll certainly get a nod from me at least. I'll most likely be arranging for you to be the last pax disembarking to grant you a visit.
Sometimes the cabin crew could have been too busy with after landing duties that they must just take the initiative to decline any such arrangement; if the request is impromtu.
Better luck next time maybe..

cpt777

Logically the cabin crew might think that it's a definate no-no but so many times if they forward the request to the flight deck crew most of the time in my experience the captain will give the nod! :)

man dont waste your time
try another airline thats it
:}

So your application to SQ wasn't successful then jumpdrive?;)

It's a standard policy now for ALL airlines not to allow cockpit visits from passengers...

cpt777,

You might want to re-read your Flight Staff Instructions WRT flight deck visits...

I know of a Capt( Retired now) who allowed a young PPL holder have a quick view of the flight deck on the ground after all passengers disembarked, some days later he received a NOT a nice note from the chief pilot to be reminded that NO FLIGHT DECK VISITS IN THE AIR OR GROUND. (He still has it as a souvenir) This is SIA I am talking about so cpt777 please read the circular and stay out of trouble.

i've never had a problem with deck visits with either BA, SIA or Continental for that matter.

No fuss unless OSAMA pays the flight deck a visit... get the idea???

My point is that it's been done in the past without much fuss as revealed through the pics on A.net. What's lacking these days is the inability to use one's discretion .. if an enthusiastic teenager comes up to the flight deck when disembarking, and asks to see the flight deck, do you really think he/she's the Osama type? :rolleyes:

Chipmunkpac & SlimShadey,
Thanks for the highlight, definitely well intended. As far as I could see the SIA culture in making sure that "covering your sixes" is well spread and the easiest way to handle this is to say "NO".

cpt777

In Sri Lanka and India, they use women and children...:}

Some would prefer Osama more than Bush...............:}

So what's the big deal when the aircraft is on the ground with its engines switched off? An SIA pilot told me that it was only forbidden while the aircraft has its engines running - that would make sense. However, it seems members of the cabin crew have their own interpretation of the rules, the men amongst them being simply being the offensive morons that they are. American airlines won't allow it at all but then they are paranoid having made it so easy for the terrorists in the first place, so much for America always claiming to liberate us huh!:rolleyes:

If a pax has an ID ( he is either pilot or cabin crew) what's the problem?, gentlemen, are we pilots, or osama sons......

An ID can be forged, if you don't know the person then if you don't have to take a risk, don't do it.

On a B747-400 with maybe fifty children on board if you allow one then you must expect to allow them all, not good for an on time departure!
Better to say 'no' to the one that asked than to the other forty odd that want to follow.

Isn’t this so sad. I got involved in aviation (which has provided every penny, cent, dinar, yen, baht plus a few other currencies that I’ve ever earned) as a direct result of a flight deck visit to G-APLL far too long ago to remember.

Whilst I totally understand that in today’s climate, airborne visits are a thing of the past, it’s a great pity the ground visits cannot be accommodated if only to stimulate an interest in aviation into the youth of today. Wishful thinking I suspect.

So I take it an A380 cockpit (ground) visit is definetly out of the question! :)

Might as well build up the hours to get the rating on my licence... then I wont have to ask!!!! :ugh:

Problem with the B747 is that most of the kids are in EY and it means a trip forward, up the stairs, through J class etc. etc. and usually at a time when cabin and ground staff need free access to the aisle, not to mention pax still looking for their seats! (you can add to that the tech crew will also be fairly busy talking to engineers and traffic staff as well as getting ready for a departure).