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El Lobo Solo 13th Jan 2008 11:54

Thai/Indo AirAsia & Lion Air
 
Do they hire separately and do either hire expats? Then again, is Lion Air going to hire expats with their hugely planned foreign expansion or will they fill their cockpits with local guys?

Chrome 13th Jan 2008 13:22

Thai/Indon AirAsia hires separately but I don't know if they hire expats. I don't think so.

I hear Lion Air has opened up for Malaysian pilots so I guess they're open for expats. Pay is USD7000 plus sector allowances, but no roster.

speedtwoten 13th Jan 2008 13:32

Lion Air going to hire expats
 
Chrome, how and where to apply??? is it through agencies;)

kwaiyai 13th Jan 2008 15:10

I would hazard a guess that Thai Air asia are unlikely to hire foreigners at the moment.

Chrome 13th Jan 2008 15:43

speedtwoten, I don't really know exactly how to apply to Lion Air. I just heard this storiy from pilots in my airline who are thinking of leaving for Lion Air. I didn't ask them how to apply myself. But check Lion Air's website at http://www.lionair.co.id/profile_trainingcenter.htm lists an email address there you could try asking. Good luck.

blade747 13th Jan 2008 16:13

Epa Lobo solo .. in Thai Air Asia I heard DCA doesn't want to hire expats pilots anymore, about Lion I know the company called some capts but probably because they flew there some years ago, however they refused to go.

Gooneybird 13th Jan 2008 19:59

To the best of my knowledge Thailand has a policy that no foreigners may fly a Thai registered a/c commercially. Every pilot that does has an individual exemption from the appropriate ministry. That said it seems to be a case of needs must when they can't supply local crew.

El Lobo Solo 13th Jan 2008 23:20

Good replies. Kind of what I expected to hear. I think Indo has the same restriction on hiring expats as Thailand. I sent a CV to Lion and Batavia a while back but never got any reply. I've heard many local guys are bailing to go to Lion while they're getting -900ERs but I don't know if they pay any better than anyone else.

knma'91 14th Jan 2008 03:52

Lion Air is not hiring any expats at this time. I have been told keep an eye on the website for updates.

kwaiyai 14th Jan 2008 09:55

In Thailand if you are non Thai and can work for a Company here then DCAT will give you a Validation based on your Normal Licence (they call it an Alternative Licence).

ZFT 14th Jan 2008 10:40


To the best of my knowledge Thailand has a policy that no foreigners may fly a Thai registered a/c commercially. Every pilot that does has an individual exemption from the appropriate ministry. That said it seems to be a case of needs must when they can't supply local crew.
Policy - no. BKP, XO, and Kwaiyai's airline all have foreigners in both P1, P2 & P3 positions.

Air Asia were even operating internal services with Malaysan registered aircraft with Malaysian crews!!! Of course this was when Thaksin owned
Thai Air Asia!!!!

uhtsky 14th Jan 2008 13:33

Everyone can fly here if the airlines need and I beleive that Thai DCA will allow.
But if the airlines can hire local pilots with the same salary or even less then why not?
Too many of my friends are interested but when they know the net income after tax --- no thanks they said.
Beleive me that everyone can fly but not everyone will accept the money if they can get somewhere more.
Cheers,
UHTSKY

kwaiyai 15th Jan 2008 16:12

El Lobo,
Be careful in Indonesia cos Certain Companies will promise you a job before clearing it with the Authorities concerned. They dont understand employing Foreigners and dont check before wasting your time Lah, I know 1 guy who thankfully didnt get burnt Via Adam Air:*

thornycactus 16th Jan 2008 16:36

Thai/Indo AirAsia & Lion Air
 

Originally Posted by kwaiyai
I would hazard a guess that Thai Air asia are unlikely to hire foreigners at the moment.


Originally Posted by blade747
Epa Lobo solo .. in Thai Air Asia I heard DCA doesn't want to hire expats pilots anymore, about Lion I know the company called some capts but probably because they flew there some years ago, however they refused to go.


Originally Posted by knma'91
Lion Air is not hiring any expats at this time. I have been told keep an eye on the website for updates.

El Lobo Solo, let me summarized in simple wordings, you can't get into these airlines! :hmm:

mutt 16th Jan 2008 18:22

USD7k, are you sure????

Locals just got a payrise from $1,600 to $3,000 for left seat MD, they also have to sign non diminishing 5 year bond for the 737.

Mutt

Metro man 16th Jan 2008 21:30

I have heard that you fly six days per week, 1400hrs per year in Indonesia.:ooh:

El Lobo Solo 16th Jan 2008 23:52

Wow, that's a LOT of hours.

Thorny, thanks for putting it in simple terms.

kwaiyai 17th Jan 2008 08:00

Metro Man, Be prepared to be Pushed hard and forget about Laws regarding FDP and max hrs. They seem to not exist in some companies:=

340flyer 22nd Jan 2008 18:43

guys just some information for a friend in Etihad, they are coming to the far east including BKK. Go see what they are offering could be good. with what is being said her its worth a try

kefz 23rd Jan 2008 05:10

try bard valley medjool dates.


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