9W 777
 

Does anyone know when the actual date for the THY 777 lease will end? Heard rumours that's it's the end of October but some of Turkish routes still showing tr 9Ws 777?

The Bright Side....
 

'Cmon guys, look at the bright side. In your two months 'off', you could get another job to fill in. Then you'd be paid full time!

Etihad operating Jet Airways aircraft
 

Regarding the previous exchange and debate about EY operating Jet Aircraft AUH-LAX, there was a comparison of Emirates operating non stop, just for info Emirates operates the B777-200 LR and not 300ER

:D:DIt may be bit off the topic but if everything goes well in upcoming FAA audit jet might increase frequency to US of A


NEW DELHI: The Directorate General of Civil Aviation (DGCA) has initiated the process of recertifying all airlines in the country in an attempt to ensure full compliance from all stakeholders during the audit by Federal Aviation Authority (FAA) in December this year.

"The process for recertification of Air India and Jet AirwaysBSE 1.65 % is on, and all other airlines will have to go through it. The DGCA has started with these two airlines because these two are the only carriers whi ..

Read more at:
Directorate General of Civil Aviation starts process of re-certifying airlines - The Economic Times

BCA interview through VORHolding
 

Good morning,

I'm going to have an interview next with BCA.

I have worked for the same company for 24 years and is the first time I try elsewhere.

Any comments and suggestions on BCA, VOR holdings and life in Beijing would be greatly appreciated thanks.

Seek retirement options, do not end your career in misery
 

Certainly, let's see where do we start:
- China is different, still communist and sunny boys are not welcomed.
- you can enjoy smog and fog in PEK until 4pm, life is dull.
- read your contract carefully, small print and translated to English before you commit to anything. VOR holdings sounds experienced in China, they have a bad reputation though.
- do not disengage from your present employer until you get an official contract in hand; have they told you to prepare for three trips in a time frame of nine months before being offered a position?
- do you like frog legs or insects dissected for dessert? Anything that moves in China is edible, do not ever ask what they put inside chinese rice
- colleagues like me who have spent over two years here have developed skin diseases, pollution is high, and pilots have opted for leaving families behind
-police and government posts are corrupted similar to Russia.
-all bonuses they promise you are a fallacy, they take your money every month with the pretext of ACARS info indicating high taxi speed, hard landings, and even lack of pilot input during long haul flights.
Expect training with interpreter, their senior pilots DO NOT speak English Level 1
If you like to end your career in depression, welcome to land of freedom of speech.:yuk:

Turn out the lights
 

All expat B777 captains at Jet Airways have been released. As the Turkish wet lease has been completed and the 3 B777 aircraft have been dry leased out.
I think this has happen once before in the pass at this carrier.

Hmmm..
 

I hate to use the word vindication here. I actually feel sorry for you guys. On the other hand, it's a good lesson, especially when there are some of us with experience who tried to dissuade you.

You cannot trust Indian companies, period. The same for the Chinese one. Now lets hear about the more wonderful lies from Oldboldpilot and Aces to Faeces.

I can relate experiences to the 737 pilots laid off.

A class whilst in ground school for two weeks were given their "Go Home Letters". all were paid full three months salary. Can't recall if paid in one lump sum, or over a three mont period. That was 2 1/2 years ago.

All pilots need to do is give KBNA a call, if he's still MGR of the EX-PAT CELL. Stand up guy as I remember him to be.

Good luck With that
It is very hard for management to do the right thing.

He is a big part of the problem

Not me>

What's going on?
 

Wondered if anyone could update me as to what's happening with Jet Airways, I see that they have 2 777's already in the desert, and I'm guessing that the 3 from Turkish will be heading there soon as well.

What's happening with all of the expat captains they had? I was luckily enough to turn this position down eager in the year, but can understand some people having to take it. Any update woukd be great.

Here it is
 

Ok since the FAA down graded the DGCA Jet was not able to add the JFK flights. A lot of us were hired for the JFK base and since they could not add the flights as of NOV. 1st we are all furloughed. Jet hopes to get the cat. 1 upgrade back next year. There are around 55 expat Captains on the 777. Good to luck all of us. And for all of you guys that told me not to go...well you were right!

DGCA
 

Well, it isn't 'Jet' who should be hoping to get Cat 1 back, its the DGCA. With the current concerns at EASA as well, this still could be a long process. The international policy office in D.C. is staffed with some very competent experts. They leave no stones unturned.
The return to Cat 1 will happen when all things 'safety' can be assured.

Quote:

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Good luck With that

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Some may agree and some may not. In recent years, Mr. Menon has been receiving his marching orders from a pay grade above his level. He was able to authorize any reasonable request without review from those who sit in the upper levels of the glass tower.


He's a stand up guy, in my opinion.

Jet furlough
 

Just to be fair to Jet Airways, the FAA downgrade was not a fault of their own, as mentioned in other posts it was the fault and inefficiency of the Indian DGCA. The Turkish lease was terminated because of BIG BROTHER's EY interference and bullying, saying that they wanted the 3 aircraft to be based in AD to operate their own flights. However, at the termination of the lease a team from Jet was in Istanbul to try to re-negotiate the lease because BIG BROTHER EY backed out and said they did not want the aircraft. !!!!
Jet did try to help out each and every expat pilot, some had their PPCs done within a few days of the end of their contract just to help them out and keep their licenses valid.
Not all expat B777 captains will be available to return to Jet once the FAA categorization is upgraded to Cat 1 is approved( if and definitely not before November 15) as lots have started new jobs elsewhere and some will be past the max age when this happens. One nasty .....Captain was caught with a high BA on his last flight so he will not be returning and no one will shed a tear for him.

Kind of hard to believe 9W could note look for other destinations in Europe such as MAD, MXP, FRA, and others. This story that we hired B777 foreign captains for BOM/IST is flawed. EY before buying shares from 9W made it clear their domain is the USA from AUH, whether or not Indian DCGA downgrading by FAA is removed.

I am more inclined to believe that 9W Chairman is not aggressive enough with Intl destinations, but soon he must realize that with the density of pax moving domestically within India, those furloughed B777 would be needed back soon. They may not return, there is too much blood spilled over who runs the airlines in India, a paternalistic DGCA? or business entrepreneurs who should endeavor to privatize this pathethic sector of transportation in India.

The furlough of foreign pilots had very little if any to do with the DGCA being down graded or the lack of upgrade by the FAA.:ugh:

And you know this how?

How?
 

Sadly: VG most likely knows this fact the same way you and I know, by just looking at their actions.
Empty promises the list is long and " now no final payment!"

But you could still believe you will be recalled in Jan,,,(promise) their action "your visa has been CANCELLED fact."