EVA looses 10% of pilot workforce
 

its the end of 2007 and 70 pilots have left this year. Surely must be time for a pay rise. Emirates need 500 Pilots next year and they accept the taiwan ATPL.

I understand EVA is becoming known as a good Pilot training center with its SIMS and achievement of flight hours for previously non type rated pilots who are now worth a lot more to other airlines. Relatively low pay , SIM facilities and eager non type rated recruits add up to this.

No bond there to keep folks from leaving?

I heard there is a bond but not many people pay it. Tends to be an individual thing. The amount and payment depends on how good a negotiator you are. HOwever, most previously non type rated pilots will stay on a few years to build up the hours anyway so everyones happy. EVA gets the needed copilots for a few years and always has many eager to join to replace those that leave.

Heard the training is first class and the jets shiny and new .

Bonding at Eva
 

There is a bond with eva, 4 years and $30 000 USD for jet applicants, and as per the turbo prop contract on offer the bond is 6 years, or $60 000 USD. The bond doesn't begin to reduce until 3 years after your checked to the line ( turbine app. ). It's not to clear as to what will happen if you break this bond. In the passed the company has been resonably willing to negotiate with individuals as to how much they should pay. Will be interesting to see how willing they are to do the same in the future when the pilot shortage begins to bit.
Also in the past all of the pilots who have left came to eva with jet ratings and 1000's of jet hours. So it's pretty hard to tell someone like that that you expect to receive the bond in full. Especially when many of the countries these guys are returning to don't recognise bonding as legal.
One thing's for sure, Eva is going to have to ramp up recruitment if they want to avoid parking up planes next year. They're not getting the jet applicants they use to in the past ( hence the recruitment of turbine pilots), and it takes about 8 months to get a turbine pilot checked to the line, and 2 years for a local cadet.
It's kind of hard to understand why the company is so unwilling to improve the T & C for the current crew to try and keep them. It wouldn't take much, besides the low basic pay, non-exsistant super sch, and no 100% universal healthcare for family or educational assistance, this IS a fantastic job. We receive training that is the envy of every major airline in the world, we get decent layovers in great destinations, we get to fly some of the best equipment around, and the local pilots are some of the best operators i've ever flown with ( and nice guys as well ).
It's no mystery to me why Eva use to be one of the best gig's around. Unfortunatly the short sighted focus of the company is in danger of changing that for the worst. If something isn't done soon they are in danger of becoming the best airline training centre around. And that would be a shame.

6 years is a long time....:eek:

Is G(or J) K still flying there? Ex-AN from the late 90's.

How much does a first year F/O make? Does the pay go up with time?

How much does a first year FO make
 

FO's get paid $3500 USD a month base,
overtime above 50 hrs a month ( avg over a 3 mth period ),
$ 3 USD per duty hour away from base per diem,
and avg 13th mth salary at the comp. of very 12 mth's of service.

There is no scheduled annual increments for FO's or Capt's.

Wow, that is really low pay.

Well its a trade off. YOu get the training and the hours. And the 13th month of pay takes care of most of your annual taxes (if you are Taiwan based longer then six months) . Low taxes and a high standard of living at about 70pct of what similar costs in the USA. That makes things a bit better. Plus very cheap and excellent health care. And a room at the company owned dorm at the airport. You are probably going to net 4000 to 5000/month.

Certain things like an American school education for your kids though? Thats something else. Its something like 10,000 dollars/year per child in high school !

Thats what I hear.

Medical and dental :}for the family as well?

I think someone replied not for the family, but health care insurance is very inexpensive in Taiwan. In fact the government of Taiwan requires all citizens and legal residents to have full medical coverage.

Far as I know.

I heard a very large percentage of the pilot workforce commute into Tiwan -- How true is this? How open is mngt. to the idea of pilots commuting?

You can go to the unofficial EVA site www.nankantraz.org to read the forums on life in EVA.

However, be forewarned most of the posters there are unhappy. The happy ones hardly post there it seems.

Thats what I gathered anyway.

Apparently quite a few pilots operate from North America. JUst dont miss your flight as some F/O did recently :)

http://nankantraz.org/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=208




YOu could ask alll your questions there too and someone probably will answer? And dont forget to tell us here.

Thanks for the link. Some interesting stuff there.

Aloha.

There are currently strong opportunities within EVA at the moment. I am currently on the 77W (Capt) at the moment having moved from an airline I had been with for 33 years. I certainly enjoy it and if you are non type rated many is the example now where training is provided free within the terms of the contract. Pilots are needed guys, what can I say. Having said that I did have 500 hours on the 777 prior to joining. I transferred over from the 742 having spent almost 12 years on it. At 54 my older carrier moved me over to the 777 just prior to retirement at 55. Now seeing out the career until 60 anyway or perhaps more. Love the airline and Taipei.

Stike82, Strong opportunities within EVA?

My question to you is what made you choose EVA over others Airline? And when did EVA start to hire direct entry Captin again?

What kind of pay scale EVA start you off with... C10 pay? What kind of exchange rate guarantee do you have. Because the last time I checked they were paying Taiwan dollars. Why did you choose to work for $3,000 USD less per month when there are other contract out there on the 777.

Why are you so new to this forums; when you been flying for the last 33yrs.

(Love the airline and Taipei) :confused: She must be very gorgeous

Im just calling it as it as I see it. I have a pension that delivers 2/3 of my leaving salary so I can afford not to be on major money - I speak mandarin fluently so the culture is easy for me to adapt to. Like I say, just calling it as I see it

another Turbo prop pilots leaves!
 

Just heard another Turbo prop pilot has left......thats 2 out of 18.Whos next