MAS conditions of service.
 

If all of the pilots stayed in MAS and took some action they would not be in this position today. Do not blame expats for taking positions that they have greedily
left for CI, EK, Etihad, KAL.
After these guys leave then they must realise what a pack of ***** all the others are and they can't come back except on their days off.

Quietachiever

You're so naive...... is either you're not within the airline community or simply your brain is below your knees.
Go n play somewhere else

Operation Smokescreen
 

No, he's just the brown noser reading these forums to report & curry favour to his 'bosses' :}

Then he was 'instructed' to sow the seeds of hate & confusion.Or maybe is it 'the toad' can suddenly use a computer?

Masexodus
 

EY 777.
What you say is completely true but the world does not care about aviators.
Hope you enjoy lots of nights at Abu Shakra and some chinese takeaway.

Do I go or do I stay?
 

Pilots in MAS are not really a disadvantaged group as salaries relative to the community are quite high. Although F/O salaries could be better, if the average B744/777/A330 Captain can not afford to survive on RM 35000 per month they probably will not survive on Etihad salaries either.
Do not execute yourselves because you hate your management.

The Toad Brown Noser
 

Quietachiever, I don't know where you got this figure, suffice to say you're trying to achieve another smokescreen to dupe the public & the aviation community again.Obviously, you are oblivious to recent newspaper clippings, which in graphic form compared MAS pilots salaries to the other 'airlines'.

The correct figures should be max at rm20500.This isn't accounting for the taxes at max rate (about 30%) & other miscelannous deductions.The rm35000 a month is what the ex MAS pilots get as starting pay at Etihad my boy.& don't let me get started on the other nice perks which come standard with the tax free salary :p

Now please,go back in your playpen,check your facts before posting unless you want to discredit yourself further.Remember this is a global forum & not the 'kampung ' that you are used to. :}

The Toad Brown Noser
 

My,my, have you just discovered this forum my dear "the toad" brown noser?What's happening?You've been slagging everybody in this forum.

Do you suddenly realised that you are about to retire & have nothing to show, & you had to be 'the toad' machai?Well my friend, sorry to hear about that.I will be sipping my JD's overlooking the gulf with my boat at the jetty & the Cayenne in the garage & think of you my friend :p

Oh well, it's not all that fun in the 'sandpit', Quietachiever I do have to worry about what I need to spend my Dirhams on........

The Sandpit
 

My dear friend. I did not leave to go to a wonderful position in Abu Dhabi. It was all your work and frankly it is not worth it. You may get upset when I question your decision to leave a perfectly good job in MAS as probably a Capt on the 777 and I know you made more than RM 20000 per month.
I know a 777 driver gets paid at least RM 28000 pm before tax. B744 drivers closer to RM 35000 before tax.

EY by name EY by nature.
Hope you enjoy the JD \'s ,the Cayenne and the family back in KL.

Outlaw,
Since you asked about DHC6, some info for you. operates in Sarawak and Sabah for rural services where airports and pax load
are small. There are 5 numbers currently and ticket prices range from RM 30 to RM 100 dependeing where you fly to. DHC6 home is in Miri. The planes are old but still very nie to fly in.

Operation Smokescreen
 

Quietachiever,indeed you have showed your true colours.Maybe you are just egging me,but for the time being I will indulge you as long as you discredit this forum with lies.You do not know your facts of the renumeration system in MAS.Neither are your quotes for the salary figures correct.

If you have a search engine, please look into a few articles of the Malay Mail circa last 2 months.Look under MAS pilots pay.Then read it & weep.I have to say the reporter for the said article had done a through research, unlike you.

I believe you are also not familiar with the IATA code for Etihad.....it's EY just like MAS = MH. Again you show your ignorance.And again you show your naivety by stating that EY has 777's.EY will only take delivery of their 777's in October 2005.As for the family,any airline with a good track record will offer a good roof over our head at their respective base with good schooling plus good medical perks to boot.Unlike MAS medical scheme, which is not only a farce but a semi insured scheme.Imagine I used to pay a yearly amount to subsidize the scheme! :}

The joke is on you Quietachiever.You have just showed how conniving & vindictive MAS Flt Ops Mismanagers are.:mad: Btw, what's your cut in the big scheme of things?An Audi TT, E class or the 5 series Beemer? :yuk: What cheapskates you guys are!

Sit Ubu! Sit!
 

:8 Quietachiever,

Please la brader, dont do this. You not gonna achieve anything but cause a lot of agony to a lot of people who have done you no harm.

You are talking about mas. Any Mas pilot reading this forum will recognise EY777 as the real thing and you as someone really not up to the standards( brain wise ) to fly with MAS.

I have been around for more than 10 years and take home about RM11000 per month. My batch mates who left are getting 3X the amount. Simple facts kiddo!

RM11000 is how many euros....OK OK....lets see it in USD...around 2900

So dont even start.

:confused: Quietachiever so you see how the world spinn and the jet engine running the MH driver are looking for better and respectable salary from U$ 2900 to U$ 9000 and the Indon driver are looking from U$ 1500 to U$ 2900 no magic that's the of live, so what EY777 had is normal way of life:ok:

Quietachiever

1) Got all the facts wrong
2) not a pilot
3) sound envious of pilots
4) brown nosing for the toad
5) justifying why they taking expats now
6) in denial that they are a bunch of 'mismanagers'

Yes you are quite an achiever...brown nosing your way out of that dingy little office at complex A till getting a nice little ill gotten vehicle recently.What can i say...nice going...now go back to your brown nosing and leave us alone...you got work to do man...got some expats lifes to screw with now. Oh and its time to get rid of the moustache cos i heard your bosses complaining its ticklish..

Quiet,

I bet you are Da' Toads minion. I have not heard this amount of dribble in years. What are you trying to pull here?????

Anybody that has ever worked in Mas will know that the figures you quoted is abseloute excrement. Do you know what that means!!!!!!

Perhaps the figures you have quoted are salaries for the rated expats Mas intends to hire directly to the wide bodies!!!!!!!!!!

We voted with our feet and there is no regrets whatsoever. I have lots of time with the family, probably much more than the poor souls working their butts off in Mas trying to cover the schedule. What you got to say to that you phoney!!!

Your best bet is to stick your head into a spinning N1 of a Trent for a haircut. :8 or go back to your stall and fry an egg

7sex and all the boys well said. The truth will prevail.

May The Force Be With You..............................

Wooblah, unfortunately for all of us here in MAS, the air "force is with us."

I have oftentimes wondered how one guy could have conned so many pilots for so long. We're waking up now and voting with our feet. Toad did the same when he left the air force but his "short"-sightedness has prevented him from seeing that taking away from the pilots has only benefitted himself.

Quiet, you may think you're sucking up to Da Toad but when the time comes for you to be sacrificed you'll realise why so many MAS pilots have made the move to other airlines.

Good Luck to all who have left/will be leaving. Anything will be better than rotting here and hoping for a better deal (or even the same deal.)

EY777 I truely enjoy reading your postings. I could't have said it better myself. Indeed it is the push factor and mismanagement. Classic case of the lights on but noone inI wish I could run away for a better life, unfortunately my wings are clipped. For now anyway... You have paid your dues to the airline, its time to sit back and enjoy life. Cheers!

:ooh: Oh dear ....Oh dear!

I just overheard MH #(KUL LON) with one of the new "profesional" drivers. I was on approach when I heard a radio call that was worse than some I've heard at flying school. THIS IS ON MH #. I nearly hit my head on the control column. What a shame . What a shame. MAS has to stoop so low just to protect somebody's behind.

Send them to the Otters so the guys there can come up. Do we really have any capable people calling the shots.

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dear oh dear
 

guys,
i was an mh pilot. i've recently became a traitor. i left because i deserve better. i was a mas cadet full of enthusiasm 13 years ago. how things change. (by the way, the mapa boss back then is the flt ops boss now...yes..how things change). with my 330 bond completed, i left. it wasn't a hard decision. no one in the office asked me why i was leaving. nobody said goodbye either. people say action speaks louder than words. hopefully my action would bring some good for me also for you guys my ex colleagues back home. i know things don't look good right now. i know how you guys feel because i was there. but i decided to change it by leaving and i don't regret it one bit. remember, at the end of the day it's still just a job, and you don't really work for mas or emirates or etihad or whatever, you work for yourself and your family. you and your family deserve better. decide and good luck.

power ke?


Hmmm! betul juga tu ye! Thanks for that perspective bro. All the best in the new world.

and all the best to you too my brother