Air Asia (WITHOUT POLITICS PLS!)
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Just as the other Air Asia thread was getting a little outta control, I thought I'd start another one which would be helpful to us pilots who're sticking to the task in hand.
I put in my application about 2 weeks ago, but have heard nothing as yet. Ok, ok, so I have an FAA licence and honestly am not holding my breath on this one, but if it were to happen, then hey, would be a God sent!
What do I have to do in order to convert my FAA licence to a Malaysian one. Who is the Local Aviation Authority around there. Any website at all?? Any idea how many exams I'd have to take etc??
Please, I'm really looking for genunie help and answers here, so please, keep the politics out of this thread and can we have some help instead.
Thank you all to those who answer.
Regards.
I put in my application about 2 weeks ago, but have heard nothing as yet. Ok, ok, so I have an FAA licence and honestly am not holding my breath on this one, but if it were to happen, then hey, would be a God sent!
What do I have to do in order to convert my FAA licence to a Malaysian one. Who is the Local Aviation Authority around there. Any website at all?? Any idea how many exams I'd have to take etc??
Please, I'm really looking for genunie help and answers here, so please, keep the politics out of this thread and can we have some help instead.
Thank you all to those who answer.
Regards.
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Usman, the question wasn't whethers other Malaysians couldn't convert it. The question was HOW do I go about converting. If anyone can shed light on that topic, it'd be appreciated.
Whats a British Guy doing with a FAA ticket? Well, why not? Answer that one sunshine!
Bloody hell! After doing a little research on the net I found that you have to do 17 exams to get a Malaysian Licence. In the UK It's 14 exams. I've passed 10 of them so far. Taking another 4 in 2 months time.
Ok, one more question......If I have a UK CAA Licence, will it be possible for me to get a straight conversion to a Malaysian Licence. The only reason I say this is because, it seems that the Malaysian authority has based most of it's stuff on the UK authorities stuff. Can anyone help me out with this one.
Thanks again.
Whats a British Guy doing with a FAA ticket? Well, why not? Answer that one sunshine!
Bloody hell! After doing a little research on the net I found that you have to do 17 exams to get a Malaysian Licence. In the UK It's 14 exams. I've passed 10 of them so far. Taking another 4 in 2 months time.
Ok, one more question......If I have a UK CAA Licence, will it be possible for me to get a straight conversion to a Malaysian Licence. The only reason I say this is because, it seems that the Malaysian authority has based most of it's stuff on the UK authorities stuff. Can anyone help me out with this one.
Thanks again.
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Conversion FAA license in Malaysia
I am afraid you will have to pass through ground school again. Malaysian licenses are based on the UK systems and FAA licences are considered too weak to be recognised. You can contact MFA (Malaysian Flying Academy) ([email protected]) (606 317 4026 ) they must be able to give you the details of what you need and can provide an assistance.
In the best of case at least "LAW"exams must be attended.
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In the best of case at least "LAW"exams must be attended.
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Hey really appreciate the advice there. I'll look into it. Just one more work Malaysian Eaglet.....If I have a UK CAA (JAA) licence, I'm assuming that I'll only have to do the airlaw exams right? Or naively wrong?
Advice would be appreciated.
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Hi British Guy,
Have a friend who converted his FAA license to Malaysian license. He did all the basic papers (CA6, Performance, HPL, all Malaysian DCA papers), had to do some single engine flying (approx 50 hrs), took the check ride for CPL, did twin engine flying for his multi engine rating, and did his IR check. It took him about a year to get Malaysian CPL/IR. Luck was on his side (and he's also a local), today he is a B737 commander in MAS.
I'm sure you can do it but I think you will have to go through the whole thing that my friend went through...
Have a friend who converted his FAA license to Malaysian license. He did all the basic papers (CA6, Performance, HPL, all Malaysian DCA papers), had to do some single engine flying (approx 50 hrs), took the check ride for CPL, did twin engine flying for his multi engine rating, and did his IR check. It took him about a year to get Malaysian CPL/IR. Luck was on his side (and he's also a local), today he is a B737 commander in MAS.
I'm sure you can do it but I think you will have to go through the whole thing that my friend went through...
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Hello Britishguy,
What I can say , you don't need to do all the exams to get a MALAYSIAN CONVERSION with a FAA license .
You will only need to do an airlaw exam but that's not a problem . Then a flight test but this is what the company arranges for you .
Don''t think you need to do all the exams unless you want a full conversion and wants the Malaysian License . But you can fly 737's and enjoy the Malaysian skies with just a conversion . You can always study while you already flying if you need /want the full Mal. licence.
Believe me that's what I had to do , only airlaw ! Go for it cause it's great in Malaysia , you will enjoy it !
I will try to see if I can get the contact person of their CAD who deals with conversions/licnese etc ......
What I can say , you don't need to do all the exams to get a MALAYSIAN CONVERSION with a FAA license .
You will only need to do an airlaw exam but that's not a problem . Then a flight test but this is what the company arranges for you .
Don''t think you need to do all the exams unless you want a full conversion and wants the Malaysian License . But you can fly 737's and enjoy the Malaysian skies with just a conversion . You can always study while you already flying if you need /want the full Mal. licence.
Believe me that's what I had to do , only airlaw ! Go for it cause it's great in Malaysia , you will enjoy it !
I will try to see if I can get the contact person of their CAD who deals with conversions/licnese etc ......
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DCA malaysia has an official website , can't remember it offhead but it should be easy with a search engine .I seem to remember that the gist was a case by case basis , depending on licences held, experience , type of a/c flown and to be flown in MY .I believe that they will only let you convert a CPL or ATP if you have a contract or promise of employment .Something like that .
good luck .
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All is not what it seems to getting a Malaysian licence. Sometimes it can be straight forward and sometimes not! Basically as you quite rightly pointed out the Malaysian licence IS based on the old British CPL or ATPL licences(now obviously supeceded by the JAA licence) but with added Malaysianism attached. The DCA likes to think that they are in control but as most of the exams come from the international division of the CAA at Gatwick one can only say that it's frankly a British exam as all the questions are set by British examiners.
The first thing to do to converting your FAA licence to a Malaysian CPL/IR licence is have a chat with a DCA examiner. Unless you have been offered a job with an airline desperately in need of pilots then I will bet my last dollar that you will need to do all the technical exams PLUS all the navigations exams with the added pleasure of performance A. The flying bit will involve multi engine flying to obtain your instrument rating. One word of caution though,whatever you get from the DCA ,have it in WRITING as they have the tendecy to misplace documents and not back up what they have said verbally.
Now, if you come to Malaysia with a JAA or British Cpl/IR or fATPL then the conversion is painless and very swift. I believe the only thing required is to do the local Air Law. This might be your best route as you have already sat some exams.
The DCA has a website and you can find this through google. I hope the above will prove useful and if you need any more info then don't hesitate to email me.
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All is not what it seems to getting a Malaysian licence. Sometimes it can be straight forward and sometimes not! Basically as you quite rightly pointed out the Malaysian licence IS based on the old British CPL or ATPL licences(now obviously supeceded by the JAA licence) but with added Malaysianism attached. The DCA likes to think that they are in control but as most of the exams come from the international division of the CAA at Gatwick one can only say that it's frankly a British exam as all the questions are set by British examiners.
The first thing to do to converting your FAA licence to a Malaysian CPL/IR licence is have a chat with a DCA examiner. Unless you have been offered a job with an airline desperately in need of pilots then I will bet my last dollar that you will need to do all the technical exams PLUS all the navigations exams with the added pleasure of performance A. The flying bit will involve multi engine flying to obtain your instrument rating. One word of caution though,whatever you get from the DCA ,have it in WRITING as they have the tendecy to misplace documents and not back up what they have said verbally.
Now, if you come to Malaysia with a JAA or British Cpl/IR or fATPL then the conversion is painless and very swift. I believe the only thing required is to do the local Air Law. This might be your best route as you have already sat some exams.
The DCA has a website and you can find this through google. I hope the above will prove useful and if you need any more info then don't hesitate to email me.
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Hi again,
Yes, PERCEVAL and GOLDWING200, are correct ....as I had a job offer and was sent by the company to the DCA and just had to do airlaw exam . But I only had a conversion not the malaysian license but yes no need to have it right as long as you can fly . And as said , if you would be around in KL best to go to the DCA and find out ....the guy of licening is helpful . Happy flying over there....
Yes, PERCEVAL and GOLDWING200, are correct ....as I had a job offer and was sent by the company to the DCA and just had to do airlaw exam . But I only had a conversion not the malaysian license but yes no need to have it right as long as you can fly . And as said , if you would be around in KL best to go to the DCA and find out ....the guy of licening is helpful . Happy flying over there....
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About 3 years ago I got my full UK CAA CPL IR with Frozen ATPL. I managed to get a Malaysian Licence by just doing the Air Law exams. BUT, this process may have changed so please check with the Malaysian DCA. At that time they fully recognised the UK licences. With others like the Australian and FAA ones you had to do exams and flying.
British Guy, you may go through all the trouble to get a Malaysian licence but are you a Malaysian Citizen or do you have Malaysian Permanent Residency? Because at the moment Air Asia are not taking in any expats. I will post any news if I ever hear otherwise though.
British Guy, you may go through all the trouble to get a Malaysian licence but are you a Malaysian Citizen or do you have Malaysian Permanent Residency? Because at the moment Air Asia are not taking in any expats. I will post any news if I ever hear otherwise though.
Hi British guy,
I was told that I would need to go for interview with DCA Inspector and probably would need to sit 2 Nav papers (similar to UK ones) Based on my UK ATPL. I allready have passed Malaysian Air law as a requirement for my CPL issue here. You will also have to pass IR flight test, I dont want to spoil your day but we had visit from chief pilot of Air Asia recently who said they would not be hiring expat FO's and the aim is to have an all Malay national workforce. I allready know of an experienced jet jock who has been messed around over work permit. Hope thats not the case but I train Cadets here so have good insight here.
Regards.
I was told that I would need to go for interview with DCA Inspector and probably would need to sit 2 Nav papers (similar to UK ones) Based on my UK ATPL. I allready have passed Malaysian Air law as a requirement for my CPL issue here. You will also have to pass IR flight test, I dont want to spoil your day but we had visit from chief pilot of Air Asia recently who said they would not be hiring expat FO's and the aim is to have an all Malay national workforce. I allready know of an experienced jet jock who has been messed around over work permit. Hope thats not the case but I train Cadets here so have good insight here.
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http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story...7&sec=business
AirAsia planning RM150mil bonds
BY P.W. THONG
AIRASIA Sdn Bhd, Asia's only low-fare, no-frills airline, is in advanced negotiations with its merchant bankers on a RM150mil Islamic bond issue in three tranches. It could be rolled out as early as in September.
Its executive director, Kamarudin Meranun, said the company would decide next week, whether to issue the bonds on its own or through a structured deal with Exim Bank.
Irrespective of how the issue would be made, the company had been told the indicative rating for the bonds was “very favourable” – a rating of at least AA, Kamarudin said.
He added that AirAsia also planned to list on the KLSE main board in three to five years, most probably through an initial public offering (IPO) rather than a reverse takeover (RTO).
“We are not doing an RTO because we can get better value through other means of funding even without listing, such as placing out shares to new investors and issuing bonds,'' Kamarudin said, adding that the IPO would be used to fund the company's expansion programme in the longer term.
He was speaking to reporters in Putrajaya after AirAsia sealed an agreement yesterday to place out 26% of its shares to three investors – Bahrain-based IDB Infrastructure Fund LP, Saudi's Crescent Venture Partners, and Germany's Deucalion Capital II Ltd – for US$26mil (RM98.8mil).
Under the agreement, IDB would take up a 10% stake in AirAsia, Crescent Venture 9%, and Deucalion Capital 7%.
The share placement will involve a primary share issue of 21%, and 5% from the share sale of AirAsia's existing major stakeholder, Tune Air Sdn Bhd.
After the exercise, AirAsia's paid-up share capital will increase to RM100mil, from RM55mil; and Tune Air's stake in AirAsia will drop to 73.41%, from 99.25%.
AirAsia chief executive officer Tony Fernandes said the new shareholders had valued AirAsia at US$100mil (RM380mil).
He added that the newly-injected capital would be used to further enhance the company's financial base, and to facilitate the company's expansion plans, including the recent purchase of four Boeing aircraft.
Last week, AirAsia entered into leasing and purchasing agreements worth US$100mil to increase its fleet by 11 aircraft.
The company would lease seven Boeing 737-300 aircraft and acquire four of the same from GE Capital Aviation Services. Upon full delivery by the middle of next year, the company would have 18 aircraft compared with seven now.
“AirAsia's new partners bring to the company an ideal combination of strategic value-add and increased financial strength,'' Fernandes said.
“AirAsia believes that this investment is a definitive confirmation of the company's success to date, its future potential and, ultimately, Malaysia's position in the international community as an exceptional location for investment.”
He reiterated that AirAsia would not push forward its regional expansion plan before establishing a foothold in the Malaysian market.
“We will not rush into the region. We want to stay clear, focusing on what we do best, that is, operating on efficient low-cost structure. We will not be pushed into doing this and that,'' Fernandes said.
Meanwhile, Richard Scanlon, vice-president for investment banking, Credit Suisse First Boston, the financial adviser to AirAsia, said that due to the recent Iraq war and the outbreak of severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS), the share placement had taken longer to close.
Nevertheless, he said, the deal had attracted numerous investors, including those in the United States, Europe, and Singapore, as well as local investors.
“This exercise had attracted serious interest from not less than 10 international investors, some of them very prominent names,'' Scanlon said.
He said one reason for the strong interest in AirAsia was its superior return on investment.
“These international private equity investors will not invest in a company that carries an internal rate of return of less than 30%. The fact that there's been great interest in this airline company tells it all.''
AirAsia planning RM150mil bonds
BY P.W. THONG
AIRASIA Sdn Bhd, Asia's only low-fare, no-frills airline, is in advanced negotiations with its merchant bankers on a RM150mil Islamic bond issue in three tranches. It could be rolled out as early as in September.
Its executive director, Kamarudin Meranun, said the company would decide next week, whether to issue the bonds on its own or through a structured deal with Exim Bank.
Irrespective of how the issue would be made, the company had been told the indicative rating for the bonds was “very favourable” – a rating of at least AA, Kamarudin said.
He added that AirAsia also planned to list on the KLSE main board in three to five years, most probably through an initial public offering (IPO) rather than a reverse takeover (RTO).
“We are not doing an RTO because we can get better value through other means of funding even without listing, such as placing out shares to new investors and issuing bonds,'' Kamarudin said, adding that the IPO would be used to fund the company's expansion programme in the longer term.
He was speaking to reporters in Putrajaya after AirAsia sealed an agreement yesterday to place out 26% of its shares to three investors – Bahrain-based IDB Infrastructure Fund LP, Saudi's Crescent Venture Partners, and Germany's Deucalion Capital II Ltd – for US$26mil (RM98.8mil).
Under the agreement, IDB would take up a 10% stake in AirAsia, Crescent Venture 9%, and Deucalion Capital 7%.
The share placement will involve a primary share issue of 21%, and 5% from the share sale of AirAsia's existing major stakeholder, Tune Air Sdn Bhd.
After the exercise, AirAsia's paid-up share capital will increase to RM100mil, from RM55mil; and Tune Air's stake in AirAsia will drop to 73.41%, from 99.25%.
AirAsia chief executive officer Tony Fernandes said the new shareholders had valued AirAsia at US$100mil (RM380mil).
He added that the newly-injected capital would be used to further enhance the company's financial base, and to facilitate the company's expansion plans, including the recent purchase of four Boeing aircraft.
Last week, AirAsia entered into leasing and purchasing agreements worth US$100mil to increase its fleet by 11 aircraft.
The company would lease seven Boeing 737-300 aircraft and acquire four of the same from GE Capital Aviation Services. Upon full delivery by the middle of next year, the company would have 18 aircraft compared with seven now.
“AirAsia's new partners bring to the company an ideal combination of strategic value-add and increased financial strength,'' Fernandes said.
“AirAsia believes that this investment is a definitive confirmation of the company's success to date, its future potential and, ultimately, Malaysia's position in the international community as an exceptional location for investment.”
He reiterated that AirAsia would not push forward its regional expansion plan before establishing a foothold in the Malaysian market.
“We will not rush into the region. We want to stay clear, focusing on what we do best, that is, operating on efficient low-cost structure. We will not be pushed into doing this and that,'' Fernandes said.
Meanwhile, Richard Scanlon, vice-president for investment banking, Credit Suisse First Boston, the financial adviser to AirAsia, said that due to the recent Iraq war and the outbreak of severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS), the share placement had taken longer to close.
Nevertheless, he said, the deal had attracted numerous investors, including those in the United States, Europe, and Singapore, as well as local investors.
“This exercise had attracted serious interest from not less than 10 international investors, some of them very prominent names,'' Scanlon said.
He said one reason for the strong interest in AirAsia was its superior return on investment.
“These international private equity investors will not invest in a company that carries an internal rate of return of less than 30%. The fact that there's been great interest in this airline company tells it all.''
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The website is ..
www.dca.gov.my
go to the english language section, and you will find its typical aviation authority legalese. But it may help. Sounds like some of the other contributors have some practical info, so some dialogue with them might be worthwhile, especially those who have dealt with the DCA before.
I sent off my AirAsia application about 4 months ago, and have heard back zero. Im still having dreams about hot nights in Bangsar, beach club and the hard rock cafe in KL. For those who havent been to KL, its the hardest partying city in the world. And thats the lifestyle to have...
Best of luck
www.dca.gov.my
go to the english language section, and you will find its typical aviation authority legalese. But it may help. Sounds like some of the other contributors have some practical info, so some dialogue with them might be worthwhile, especially those who have dealt with the DCA before.
I sent off my AirAsia application about 4 months ago, and have heard back zero. Im still having dreams about hot nights in Bangsar, beach club and the hard rock cafe in KL. For those who havent been to KL, its the hardest partying city in the world. And thats the lifestyle to have...
Best of luck