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Old 6th Sep 2020, 17:41
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I hear that guys are having their contracts renewed, but without pay. Only B777 I understand. But that's better than no renewals.
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Old 6th Sep 2020, 21:40
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EVEN if contracts renewed on worthless paper or email screens, the fact remains that many had the medical licence lapsed . Also most have expired flight licences.
When time for recall comes, KAL will still trim many off
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Old 7th Sep 2020, 10:20
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Originally Posted by captain8 View Post
I hear that guys are having their contracts renewed, but without pay. Only B777 I understand. But that's better than no renewals.
Also 330 and 747 guys have the contract renewed... Not all, but most of them.... But at this stage contract renewal is easy.... Zero costs for KAL and they have a number of desperate pilots waiting to get recalled. And then most likely with huge paycuts.....
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Old 19th Sep 2020, 02:16
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Heard that KAL may be recalling some pilots on the B777 and B747. Own ticket back to ICN followed by 14 days quarantine at own expense to be reimbursed later. No pay or per diem until released from quarantine.
Then retraining and requalification.

Any more updates, anyone?
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Old 19th Sep 2020, 02:43
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Those that are desperate will do it .
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Old 19th Sep 2020, 14:00
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Not necessarily!
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Old 19th Sep 2020, 15:15
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A consideration for pilots offered the recall is they will now be ICN-based until the Korean government lifts the quarantine requirement , meaning, they will not be unable to return to their homes on their days off. God only knows how long the quarantine might stay in place: one more month? One more year? Quite a gamble for those that have real lives that have not been dedicated to the Cho's. The ICN-base is necessary, that is beyond company control, but I am sure the miserly millionaires are elated by this as they can keep a few extra Won in their pockets by claiming "ICN-based" pilots are not eligible for per diem whilst in ICN.
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Old 19th Sep 2020, 18:12
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Originally Posted by fatbus View Post
Those that are desperate will do it .
Living in 2019 is an excellent coping mechanism.
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Old 19th Sep 2020, 19:48
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Again, I think you might be surprised that not all are clambering to get back under undesirable terms. Especially the lack of commuting . The prime reason most went to KAL. But each to his own !
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Old 19th Sep 2020, 21:10
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I agree 100% but calling anyone that returns desperate is a bit of junk punch. Set a timeline If you go back, at least you can reevaluate while your collecting pay and keeping current.

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Old 20th Sep 2020, 19:40
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Under normal conditions I believe commuting expat crew leave and enter Korea on the flight in uniform and on GD. This should not make mandatory quarantine as a passenger an issue. I know nothing of permanent ICN base being asked of for anyone returning. Are people being recalled or just a rumor?
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Old 21st Sep 2020, 05:12
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Plenty of cash going around as it seems: https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/n...edium=linkedin
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Old 21st Sep 2020, 07:29
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Per diem in ICN

Where did this rumor of no per diem in ICN begin? The 747 skippers that stayed in ICN after the LWOP receive ICN perdeim
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Old 21st Sep 2020, 14:23
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Contracts now being renewed and guys recalled to fleet.

No mention of any change in T&Cs, ie start at basic year 1 pay .

Tough on those already released over the last few months. Shouldn’t be too long before KAL start running recruitment again, due to too many guys let go!
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Old 21st Sep 2020, 14:26
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Originally Posted by dkk1 View Post
Do you really think anyone will pass up the opportunity to secure their job after waiting 6 months, worrying whether they'll even have a job to go back to? Let's be real. Everyone will go back if they get selected. How about you Charlie, will you go back if they called you back for next month?
Yes. I do. 100% chance of it. As for me, will I go back? My family is driving me crazy and I certainly wish to return. However, it's not entirely my decision, and I am obligated to respect the wishes and opinions of others.
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Old 21st Sep 2020, 19:30
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Originally Posted by captain8 View Post
Contracts now being renewed and guys recalled to fleet.

No mention of any change in T&Cs, ie start at basic year 1 pay .

Tough on those already released over the last few months. Shouldn’t be too long before KAL start running recruitment again, due to too many guys let go!
i don't think they will start recruiting again unless the country will remove the quarantine restriction
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Old 21st Sep 2020, 20:24
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I could be an all new race to bottom. Airlines are in a very strong take it or leave it position . Some will take it some will leave it. Sorry for those who still need it , it's going to be a long road to recovery.
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Old 19th Oct 2020, 19:57
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Re-Hiring has already commenced, albeit at a moderate pace. Around 33 expat Captains taken back. No more recruitment for now.
Covid dependant , maybe more hope next year. Don't hold your breath if you are on a senior (ie more expensive) contract .
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Old 13th Nov 2020, 03:25
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Old 16th Nov 2020, 03:14
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