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Old 1st Feb 2020, 11:36
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Mandatory indefinite leave of absence of at least two airlines. Probably most will do the same.
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Old 3rd Feb 2020, 04:48
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Yes I just heard it's official at Beijing Capital and Tinjian Airlines (others in HNA group too?). Foreign pilots put on unpaid leave or a $200 per day retainer. "Force Majeure" is being used. I wonder where that leaves the pilots contractually? They can surely just leave without a notice period if they want to if the company is forcing the reduced pay?
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Old 3rd Feb 2020, 15:47
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The rumor mill is saying that CSA, all pilots have been sent home, leave without pay?.?? True?
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Old 3rd Feb 2020, 20:07
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The rumor mill is saying that CSA, all pilots have been sent home, leave without pay?.?? True?
Very true...maybe a good excuse to get rid of some of them!
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Old 3rd Feb 2020, 20:19
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Originally Posted by Xi Ping View Post
SPEAK TO Guys at China eastern, maybe not an announcement but being let go and no renewals.

CSA has recruits in last 3 years, and has had many failures.

BCA pilots told sign new contract or face consequences

WA new contract , pilots being forced onto with loss up to $38k per annum.

sichuan claim to be recruiting but have not done so.

adverts by agencies mean nothing, and many offer what is not there to attract when in fact there are no jobs.

facts ....
"Good n old" fishing. For a long time I thought that lawyers were filthy. Then I met the brokers...
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Old 4th Feb 2020, 03:14
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Hainan airlines implemented NPL of at least two months for expat pilots with immediate effect
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Old 4th Feb 2020, 18:29
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does anyone have a copy of the company letters that are being sent out regarding pilots being instructed to go home without pay?
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Old 5th Feb 2020, 00:43
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does anyone have a copy of the company letters that are being sent out regarding pilots being instructed to go home without pay?
you have PM
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Old 5th Feb 2020, 02:44
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For once the rumours are true.
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Old 6th Feb 2020, 04:15
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https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/...s-among-crisis
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Old 6th Feb 2020, 07:01
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Local terms

Hello could anyone share what are the local terms are salary and leave.

thx
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Old 8th Feb 2020, 15:19
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Local terms for what/ Unpaid leave/ have you read the posts!!!!
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Old 8th Feb 2020, 16:37
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Originally Posted by chattur View Post
Hello could anyone share what are the local terms are salary and leave.

thx
roster is fixed 30/30 (30 off/30 off), salary 0$/month + annual safety bonus (0$).

They are desperate for pilots.
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Old 9th Feb 2020, 01:54
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Expats are always the first to get the chop in a down turn, converting to local terms may well secure your position, it’s not unreasonable to ask what local terms are. If they aren’t too far behind, such as Singapore Airlines for example, then greater job security might swing it for some people.

This crisis will end eventually and things should ramp up again reasonably quickly.
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Old 9th Feb 2020, 02:43
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Local terms for what/ Unpaid leave/ have you read the posts!!!!
I guess he is asking due to the many mentions in this thread about companies asking expats to sign local contracts (HNA, Suparna, etc.)
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Old 10th Feb 2020, 13:27
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All things will eventually end. Doubtful they will ever be able to attract and recruit suitable candidates in the future now after this latest furlough round.

https://simpleflying.com/foreign-pil...eave-in-china/
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Old 10th Feb 2020, 17:58
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Doubtful they will require any. No foreign pilots for the next one to two years is the latest gossip.
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Old 11th Feb 2020, 09:35
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Money talks and memories are short, if the Chinese airlines dangle a big enough carrot they’ll soon have people applying when this has died down.
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Old 11th Feb 2020, 10:46
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Originally Posted by CW247 View Post
Sorry but the above comment is based on what? oh yeah, gossip. Chinese society will start to get back to normal (in terms of open shops, roads, venues) in under a month. Max flight schedules possibly 3 months. In about 6 months, it will be like nothing happened. The Chinese cannot survive like this and the CPC knows they need to get everyone back to their jobs. With that, air travel will slowly start to return to normal.
I think you need to change months to years. This is just getting started imho.

The situation in China is clearly out of control - plenty of videos online that back that up.

Their delayed and ineffective response has allowed this virus to spread globally. The WHO is finally starting to admit the truth after spending the last month pandering to the Chinese.

A team from the CDC has not been allowed to travel to China - the only thing that makes sense is that allowing them in will expose the true extent of the situation.

The published figures are just the tip of the iceberg - probably limited by the number of tests/day their labs can handle. They are not testing people who died outside their hospitals - so they are not being counted in the published figures.

What is happening on the Diamond Princess gives a good indication of what is probably taking place in Chinese cities.

The economic impact of this should not be underestimated - I would expect severe supply chain problems globally with all the associated knock-on effects.

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Old 16th Feb 2020, 09:53
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Not sure I would trust this after whats been posted on this thread,

https://jobs.flightglobal.com/job/14...tId=1509961400
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