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I can’t wait to fly with you AMN, so I can re-educate you
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Good luck with that. You will be waiting a long time to ever fly with this Ace. Not even a pilot, let alone a professional one.
AMN previous posts-:
13th of April 2016 looking for Pilot training organisations.
21st Feb 2017, claims he resigned from Gulf Air as a Captain in 2015. He resigned over a year before he was looking for a training organsiation.
The Village he comes from is looking for him. They want their idiot back and he is rumoured to be the best on the Sub Continent.
AMN previous posts-:
13th of April 2016 looking for Pilot training organisations.
21st Feb 2017, claims he resigned from Gulf Air as a Captain in 2015. He resigned over a year before he was looking for a training organsiation.
The Village he comes from is looking for him. They want their idiot back and he is rumoured to be the best on the Sub Continent.
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luai, what we are all trying to say is this. NEVER, EVER, pay for your job. Let them pay you. There is enough of a shortage of pilots now that these companies need to learn they have to provide proper compensation if they expect to do business. Making pilots pay for their position is ridiculous and demeaning. Don't demean yourself. Shop around and find a job that pays you to be there.
Be safe and Happy Holidays.
As HVYMETAL also states...
Recruiters aren't stupid, and nor are reputable Airlines, they can spot a P2F RHS a mile off when applying for a position and they will be bottom of the pile, not because they paid for their previous employment but because they are usually of poorer quality than other (non P2F) candidates as has been the experience of the airline concerned, and good airlines want good candidates with good known quantity backgrounds.
Not to mention liability... if you are involved in an accident and somebody digs.
Recruiters aren't stupid, and nor are reputable Airlines, they can spot a P2F RHS a mile off when applying for a position and they will be bottom of the pile, not because they paid for their previous employment but because they are usually of poorer quality than other (non P2F) candidates as has been the experience of the airline concerned, and good airlines want good candidates with good known quantity backgrounds.
Not to mention liability... if you are involved in an accident and somebody digs.
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I have never even paid for a type rating in my life, but I can tell you that all reputable airlines in the EU/middle east have MANY pilots who started with p2f.
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If you ask me if I would have ample money to pay for P2F described here, I would rather spend it on flying for non-profit like MAF or pick some poorly paid pilot job somewhere to gather experience. This is what I think is the best use of money planned fot P2F.
On the other hand - how come there are people (especially in developing countries but also in 'The West') who can afford 0-ATPL program including all these hours, then type-rating, then some P2F and in the same time be able to maintain some minimal level of life. 0-ATPL, even in Poland is at least $60k, then life itself like $24k (minimal approx 2 yrs expenses in PL). Then $30k Type Rating, then P2F - next $50k.
We're over $150k.
So, how long it will take you to make this money in paid position of FO in some 'mid'level' airline?
I think my question is - leaving all the emotions I can see in this thread - is it worth it? Before you answer - think of, say, medical school? How much it costs you, how long it takes you to be a doctor, how long it takes you to be a really financially independent doctor? (the catch - in PL and in Europe in general I think, medical studies are almost free).
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On the other hand - how come there are people (especially in developing countries but also in 'The West') who can afford 0-ATPL program including all these hours, then type-rating, then some P2F and in the same time be able to maintain some minimal level of life. 0-ATPL, even in Poland is at least $60k, then life itself like $24k (minimal approx 2 yrs expenses in PL). Then $30k Type Rating, then P2F - next $50k.
We're over $150k.
So, how long it will take you to make this money in paid position of FO in some 'mid'level' airline?
I think my question is - leaving all the emotions I can see in this thread - is it worth it? Before you answer - think of, say, medical school? How much it costs you, how long it takes you to be a doctor, how long it takes you to be a really financially independent doctor? (the catch - in PL and in Europe in general I think, medical studies are almost free).
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Luai
When pilots like you P2F especially in todays times when there are more jobs than pilots you drag down everybody's compensation and future earnings. If all you desperate youngsters would just be patient like us older guys had to do, go do some charter work on Caravans and King Airs etc the airlines would be forced to raise salaries significantly as well as pay for the TR and stop charging for interviews or forcing people to pay for their own flights and hotels to interview.
If you choose to be patient and support your fellow pilots then believe me you will be rewarded in good time. P2F is a humiliating experience that should not be allowed and those on the line that did it properly will not respect you one ounce, nor should they.
When pilots like you P2F especially in todays times when there are more jobs than pilots you drag down everybody's compensation and future earnings. If all you desperate youngsters would just be patient like us older guys had to do, go do some charter work on Caravans and King Airs etc the airlines would be forced to raise salaries significantly as well as pay for the TR and stop charging for interviews or forcing people to pay for their own flights and hotels to interview.
If you choose to be patient and support your fellow pilots then believe me you will be rewarded in good time. P2F is a humiliating experience that should not be allowed and those on the line that did it properly will not respect you one ounce, nor should they.