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Old 16th Oct 2018, 02:55
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Hi all, please forgive the rooky questions but I've been on the bench for a few years and a bit out of the loop.

Can anyone advise the remuneration package for an Direct Entry SO with SIA?
How long to upgrade?
Is it feasible to raise a young family there or better to commute from Aus?

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I am largely out of date regarding Ts & Cs at SQ but a couple of points, you won't get a roster compatible with commuting from Australia, you will find it quite expensive on tickets if you do try to commute. SQ experimented with basing in the UK, Australia and theUSA about twenty years ago and gave them up as soon as they could.
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Originally Posted by parabellum
I am largely out of date regarding Ts & Cs at SQ but a couple of points, you won't get a roster compatible with commuting from Australia, you will find it quite expensive on tickets if you do try to commute. SQ experimented with basing in the UK, Australia and theUSA about twenty years ago and gave them up as soon as they could.
Cheers Parabellum appreciate the feedback.
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Upgrade time from SO to FO is around 10-12 months.

FO to CA is a long wait, I believe. No idea about the salary though, apart from the fact that upon being promoted to FO, they will deduct certain amount from your salary for x number of years which is mentioned in the last question of the application.

Btw, have you been invited for an assessment?
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Originally Posted by Whatthef
Upgrade time from SO to FO is around 10-12 months.

FO to CA is a long wait, I believe. No idea about the salary though, apart from the fact that upon being promoted to FO, they will deduct certain amount from your salary for x number of years which is mentioned in the last question of the application.

Btw, have you been invited for an assessment?
Thanks Whatthef,

No I haven't even got an application in as yet. I'm just looking at long haul options from or near Aus. Have a young kids so need to weigh up the work life balance stuff.
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Long haul is highly over rated! Suggest you re-evaluated . Been there don't got the t shirt, t shirt lists the number of birthdays, anniversaries, kids special days missed!
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Long haul is highly over rated! Suggest you re-evaluated . Been there don't got the t shirt, t shirt lists the number of birthdays, anniversaries, kids special days missed!
Thanks fatbus and duely noted.
Ironically a long haul SO with Virgin Auz would spend far more time at home than a domestic NG driver hence why I was wondering about other operators in our region.

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AZ.... For info ...A SO in SQ is not an operating position. This is a training rank to be FO. Training period for SO for all fleets range from 6-9months.. then you become an operational FO.
While flying as (training) as SO you will not get any productivity allowance as there will also be a safety pilot until you are cleared to FO position. So look at your hours as you might qualify for the direct entry FO program iso the SO position. If you join as a direct FO, earliest time to command assessment is 5 years(iregardless of nationality).
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Originally Posted by slayerdude
AZ.... For info ...A SO in SQ is not an operating position. This is a training rank to be FO. Training period for SO for all fleets range from 6-9months.. then you become an operational FO.
While flying as (training) as SO you will not get any productivity allowance as there will also be a safety pilot until you are cleared to FO position. So look at your hours as you might qualify for the direct entry FO program iso the SO position. If you join as a direct FO, earliest time to command assessment is 5 years(iregardless of nationality).
Where is the black and white on the 5 yrs? More like a bait for DEFO dont you think...even their own guys are not getting a chance at command at 8-10 yrs..
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How is the money approximately (full package) and rosters at SQ? What about housing and education allowances? Anything about that?
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Originally Posted by slayerdude
... So look at your hours as you might qualify for the direct entry FO program iso the SO position. If you join as a direct FO, earliest time to command assessment is 5 years(iregardless of nationality).
Irregardless (Not without regard to)...not a word. You mean Regardless. I'm just saying : )
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thanks for the schooling in English fellas.... languages were never a strong point.....so which is it??? irregardless or regardless?
what I was trying to say was nationality doesn't matter for a DEFO(direct entry FO).
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Are they "ACTUALLY" open to hire expats as SO ?
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