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Old 1st May 2019, 13:24
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Originally Posted by Dogged View Post
On planet "SIGNED CONTRACT" I suppose.
Contracts are about as valuable and as legally enforceable as toilet paper in Vietnam.
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Old 2nd May 2019, 08:46
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Originally Posted by umop apisdn View Post
Contracts are about as valuable and as legally enforceable as toilet paper in Vietnam.
I can validate this statement. It works both ways too. Additionally, there is no such thing as a type rating, predicated on a contract, unless in a third world police state, ie The PRC or Nam. Even then, your license can be held in bureaucratic limbo, but you still have the certificate. Unless you’re in Rwanda, then they physically take your license if you’re PNG’d or terminated. The respective CAA can then refuse to validate your certificate to a requesting body. IE a perspective employer. In which case your new employer or CAA will see this as a confirmation of your job history and HR will receive confirmation as to why you are seeking employment at airline XYZ in said nation. Or, rarely, the job in question is in another police state and managed by morons. In which case, their heads will explode that their request for your validation was denied. Then they’ll call you up and say something like “my, you weren’t kidding where you”?, or “we are unfortunately unable to validate your experience at this time”, followed by stamps, official forms in triplicate, a head bobble or suspicious glances.
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Old 15th May 2019, 14:16
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Does anyone know anything about this company?
I've heard some rumors regarding salary and benefits. Is that true that they dont provide acomodation and flight ticket for foreingers? Any info would be appreciated, thanks
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Old 16th May 2019, 04:10
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No Vietnamese airline provides accommodation. VNA are the only ones that give free, business class, tickets home on rostered weeks off.
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Old 6th Jun 2019, 23:52
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Originally Posted by Therealmoose10 View Post
The 787 course is cancelled again.. they advised the pilots to resign and join the GS course in april. Then may 20th. After that june 17th.. and now again postpone till mid July..

Pilots have resign their current employers and have make arrangements to come to HANOI with tickets and apartments (pay by the pilot not Bamboo or agency)

They seem to play with pilot's lifes. Encouraging them to resign, leave proper jobs and now they are jobless and without any further sign of responsibility from Bamboo..

As well the have change conditions reducing salary 25% of what they advertised. But agencies still announced GS courses and full salary which is a scam.

people actual resign from a 787 paying job to join an airline with no 787 planes?

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Old 24th Jun 2019, 13:39
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Apparently a pilot from the unmentionable airline in the Middle East is joining (has joined?) as B787 fleet manager, initials SS. This pilot was a 737 only pilot who joined the Boeing CCL contract to be an instructor on the 737. He was type rated on the 787 and flew a total of 2-3 flights from an operating seat before joining the unmentionable airline with a magical 400-500 hours of PIC time in type. Liars like that have no place in aviation. If this is true, Bamboo should get rid of him quick before his lack of integrity and honesty adversely affect the airline.
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Old 25th Jun 2019, 03:01
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Wouldn’t surprise me, would join the long list of fakers in VN.
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Old 27th Jun 2019, 07:48
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Has anyone received start dates for the A330?
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Old 28th Jun 2019, 19:26
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TruthSeeker2, Please keep him
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Old 14th Jul 2019, 16:52
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Last week's Skype interviews were cancelled, seems if you want to join this company the best thing is your already unemployed, don't leave a airline to join there.
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Old 15th Jul 2019, 13:23
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When CEO of Bamboo Airways EDDY DOYLE was presented with recruiting contract breaches and misrepresentations, he immediately blocked my Linkedln profile from Bamboo.
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Old 15th Jul 2019, 14:23
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Eddy Doyle, sounds like a used car sales person.
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Old 15th Jul 2019, 15:37
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Replaced/fired VP of Ops Air Canada....rumor has it had much to do with handling of multiple flight operation incidents and near disastrous Air Canada Flt 759 SFO
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Old 12th Oct 2019, 13:04
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Whats up with the hand over heart BS? Swearing a legion to the company?
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Old 29th Oct 2019, 05:48
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Despite the negative comments (and I do not work for them), I can see more and more bamboo aircrafts here and the people working there are happy so far. Not much flying hours as they are a bit crowded and prepared for the next aircrafts to come. A lot of Brazilians joined since June/July following a bankruptcy...
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Old 8th Dec 2019, 01:45
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Still nobody here who knows more about the ins and outs of the company.
it all sounds promising but with a startup.. you never know
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Old 9th Dec 2019, 11:14
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Yeah, thats gotta be a clue.
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Old 11th Dec 2019, 07:29
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I can say the following to those who want to join about a few tricky things...

1. That famous thing about NO SIM for interview... It's a double edged sword in itself and its proven that way for several lately. You will be offered a contract, and once in Vietnam (when you would have already resigned from your previous outfit)
You will be required to do a license conversion SIM which works as your ultimate evaluation in order to get your CAAV license.
What has happened? Well people have come, resigned from previous jobs and surprise, fail the license conversion sim and end up without their old job or this one... ... Other carriers here like VNA do your conversion Sim AT your screening, so if you pass, your work is secured before you actually Sign the contract... (good luck everyone )

2. They just effectively removed the overnight allowance which was good before to make a few extra hundred more per month, kiss that good bye..

3. You will NEVER fly overtime, so never expect to get productivity. Your base salary is what you get, so if you're calculating some imaginary figure in your head, forget about that.

4. The poor foreign FOs, who thought they had a chance for upgrade. Just found out that recently if they held a "seniority" somehow, ALL of the local FOs, even ones that were hired months after them, were put on top. Furthermore, they have no idea if this will continue to happen indefinitely.. Good for the locals, sucks for the expats on the right seat, who are now looking at about 5 years+ on the right seat.. So again... better options here flying for another outfit on this regard, where some are actually giving a left seat at 12 months with them..

5. Tickets on your vacation?? Forget it, foreigners DONT have access to id tickets, unlike ALL other carriers here in Vietnam only the local pilots have access to yearly tickets on their network, we have 0! So, from your salary, be ready to deduct at least $X,XXX+ if you're from American countries for your commute in whatever you can get...

A bunch of things here are not described or warned of by the agencies because of course, they're here to collect their monthly juicy commission on you, and will be absent when you try to sort out some of these things...

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Old 5th Jan 2020, 17:41
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Latest news from BAV

Aircrafts, a mixture of planes coming from Etihad, Aeroflot, etc. Most of the fleet is now used.
company is looking to enter in the stock market and they offer stock options to employees several times. Looks like they need cash flow.
Vietnamese pilots got an productivity bonus at the end of the year. Expats none. Segnority list for Vietnamese only.
Still NO monthly roster. The schedule is changed daily and you have maximum five days of planning.
Rostering keep swapping your day available for company needs to day off after 11PM, so no real days off.
Training and dead head flights during your days off not counted as duty time. You are planned for positioning flights during your days off or your annual leave.
Layover day’s reimbursement policy have been changing several times. The last is 8,5 USD for SIM days or ground training only.
DFO is a kid playing with stickers on company Viber profile.
HR department is far far away to an airline standard. Too complicated and slow, quite unuseful.
FLC group benefits as hotel use or golf courts well sponsored as employees benefits are dreams only. The procedures to get them are quite unrealistic and created to avoid any chance to give them.
Several Expats are looking around to move quickly away.
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Old 6th Jan 2020, 04:29
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Doesn’t sound too tempting I have to say!
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