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Old 15th Feb 2019, 21:48
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Can someone please confirm the approximate pay per month after deductions for DEFO new joiners?

A few have mentioned circa S$11500 after deductions, which doesn't seem too bad.

But someone else (recently interviewed) mentioned S$8500 (maximum) before deductions, which is very different! Also that the bond is an eye watering S$150,000. Surely this information is mistaken or a typo...?

If not, is the huge difference because the guys getting circa S$11500 net are actually on older (and much much better) contracts?.

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Old 15th Feb 2019, 21:59
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You don't actually have to pay the SIA bond unless you want to leave before the bonded period, (for non rated about 5 years), is up, then you pay pro rata depending on how much of your bonded period is left.
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Old 18th Feb 2019, 05:25
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Any clarity on this?

Originally Posted by HHChan
$8500?? USD or Sing dollars?...if in Sing..think its wrong mate. Not that low..well maybe

Any clarity on this? If it’s SGD then that means it’s as low as some local contracts in South East Asia.
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Old 19th Feb 2019, 01:39
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Originally Posted by newpielot



Any clarity on this? If it’s SGD then that means it’s as low as some local contracts in South East Asia.

I think that is your basic monthly pay without your flying allowance, on 75hrs above your take home will be approximately 12k or there abouts. Correct me if I am wrong.
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Old 19th Feb 2019, 02:36
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I think that is your basic monthly pay without your flying allowance, on 75hrs above your take home will be approximately 12k or there abouts. Correct me if I am wrong.
Yeah I guess that makes more sense.
Thanks for the response.

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Old 19th Feb 2019, 03:16
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Originally Posted by parabellum
You don't actually have to pay the SIA bond unless you want to leave before the bonded period, (for non rated about 5 years), is up, then you pay pro rata depending on how much of your bonded period is left.
Is the bond something they deduct from your salary for 5 years? I won’t have that kind of cash to hand if offered the job.
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Old 19th Feb 2019, 07:14
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FO basic if I'm not wrong is 6200 Sgd a mth. 30-40 sgd/hr and other variable allowances, 13 mth and yearly bonus. So ur mthly take home will vary.
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Old 23rd Feb 2019, 07:35
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Thumbs down Really hiding lots of info.

So,as i had a call from them,and asked to give a 45 minute Skype interview.
pretty standart and relaxed,but they dint tell any details at all,like mmmmm you gonna make approximately 7000USD,that is it,they ask,general questions based on your CV,nothing tricky,except you dont know **** abut terms and conditions for this job.
They said it is most likely 737 r 747-400,so they are looking drivers for Scoot and cargo,so no fancy routes as i had in my fantasy world
After the interview they said they want to bring me to Singapore for an assessment,BUT!!!!only ticked and accommodation provided,there additionally you have to pay for the medical check and some exams,air law and ops,around 700USD~!!!!!!!!!!!! i dont know guys,what is it all about,i will try to ask more info,but they said no everything gonna be okay.
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Originally Posted by Yevgeiy.Ka
So,as i had a call from them,and asked to give a 45 minute Skype interview.
pretty standart and relaxed,but they dint tell any details at all,like mmmmm you gonna make approximately 7000USD,that is it,they ask,general questions based on your CV,nothing tricky,except you dont know **** abut terms and conditions for this job.
They said it is most likely 737 r 747-400,so they are looking drivers for Scoot and cargo,so no fancy routes as i had in my fantasy world
After the interview they said they want to bring me to Singapore for an assessment,BUT!!!!only ticked and accommodation provided,there additionally you have to pay for the medical check and some exams,air law and ops,around 700USD~!!!!!!!!!!!! i dont know guys,what is it all about,i will try to ask more info,but they said no everything gonna be okay.

It depends on what you’re willing to take. Would you regret doing it or regret it more that you didn’t?
Will they reimburse your 700USD if you get the job?
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Old 24th Feb 2019, 08:27
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No, you only have to pay them if you break the bond and leave early, there are no monthly deductions from salary, you do not pay for your rating, just complete your bonded period, that is all.
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Old 24th Feb 2019, 10:36
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Originally Posted by parabellum
No, you only have to pay them if you break the bond and leave early, there are no monthly deductions from salary, you do not pay for your rating, just complete your bonded period, that is all.
ParaB,

I guess you worked for them during the glory years as a DEC and were well treated. What the above posters are mentioning is the cost of the interview and subsequent medical to join is from their own pocket. Just another job which is reeking of the low cost disease which is griping this industry. What you say though about bonds and leaving is apparently correct and verified by my sources their as well.

Cheers,

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Old 24th Feb 2019, 12:20
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Originally Posted by fighterkok
ParaB,

I guess you worked for them during the glory years as a DEC and were well treated. What the above posters are mentioning is the cost of the interview and subsequent medical to join is from their own pocket. Just another job which is reeking of the low cost disease which is griping this industry. What you say though about bonds and leaving is apparently correct and verified by my sources their as well.

Cheers,

FK
I think that’s a really good deal. It’s better than paying for your own rating.
Im guessing its a local contract with no help in terms of housing in the short term?
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Old 25th Feb 2019, 07:25
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Hello fighterkok. Correct, I was a DEC way back. In case it gives you any comfort we had to pay costs related to the interview and medical as well, all medical fees, food and accommodation etc. We did get a non upgradeable Economy ticket on SIA to get there and back from the interview, from the nearest airport that SIA had a scheduled service to, not necessarily your home airport. I found them very good to work for but there is no such thing as a free lunch!
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Old 26th Feb 2019, 21:18
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Hi!
Is there anyone that has more info about the DESO entry besides the info from their website regarding the selection process, contracts etc?
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Old 16th Mar 2019, 01:45
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Upgrades...?

Originally Posted by HHChan
No more 5yrs yes..but where is this 13-15 yrs for DEFO? Its not written on stones yet. The 13-15 yrs are meant for those who start from day one cadets. There is a queue but nothing is firmed on how many years yet. Maybe shorter...

Varying reports on upgrades. Does SIA upgrade foreigners, and how long is the wait for a DEFO?
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Old 16th Mar 2019, 01:45
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Originally Posted by Big Neil
Can someone please confirm the approximate pay per month after deductions for DEFO new joiners?

A few have mentioned circa S$11500 after deductions, which doesn't seem too bad.

But someone else (recently interviewed) mentioned S$8500 (maximum) before deductions, which is very different! Also that the bond is an eye watering S$150,000. Surely this information is mistaken or a typo...?

If not, is the huge difference because the guys getting circa S$11500 net are actually on older (and much much better) contracts?.

Confused
If ANYONE can finally put this question with a solid response to rest that would be hugely appreciated ...
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Old 26th Mar 2019, 14:48
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Hi,

Just for info, did they ask you anything about ATPL theory or anything similar?
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Old 11th Apr 2019, 06:56
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Hi guys
does anyone know anything about the DESO interview and the recruitment process?
I’m from malaysia and got an interview with them in KL so I would like to know any insight abt it
Thanks
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Old 15th Apr 2019, 10:38
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Originally Posted by mcchow
Hi guys
does anyone know anything about the DESO interview and the recruitment process?
I’m from malaysia and got an interview with them in KL so I would like to know any insight abt it
Thanks
Just sent my application, would be cool to know something more.
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Old 15th Apr 2019, 11:13
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for the fact no one has really replied on this topic, it seems its not ideal to come to Singapore airlines...there are better offers out there
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