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New Bali Air? Scam or real?

Old 3rd Jul 2020, 11:09
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Yes that's what confusing me, how they asked for thr fees before sending the contract that is just a PAPER !!!
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Old 3rd Jul 2020, 11:38
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If you're still confused even after reading all the other ppl wrote above then go ahead, send them the bucks
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Old 3rd Jul 2020, 13:20
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Another thing !
the airline doesn't make any schedules now and if you search on their fleet on google you'll find nothing credible, even their website isn't working currently!!
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Old 3rd Jul 2020, 14:46
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And while you’re at it, I have a large sum of money ($15 million USD) left in inheritance by a Nigerian businessman with your surname. Just need a few details from you to send it your way...
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Old 4th Jul 2020, 00:26
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Originally Posted by Zak123 View Post
Another thing !
the airline doesn't make any schedules now and if you search on their fleet on google you'll find nothing credible, even their website isn't working currently!!
....maybe the universe is trying to tell you something!
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Old 22nd Jul 2020, 22:40
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That airlines doesnt exsist in indonesia.
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Old 2nd Oct 2020, 08:47
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They've changed their ways now. Be careful.

Dear xxxx,
Subject: We are now in the process of recruiting cadet pilots for A 320,
ATR 72-212/600, Falcon 50, Bombardier Global 7500 and Dash 8 Q300/400 to
join our expanding fleet.

Thank you for applying for the position of entry level first officer or
cadet pilot of A 320, ATR 72-212/600, Falcon 50, Bombardier Global 7500
and Dash 8 Q300/400 aircraft advertised recently. This post is
conditional and upon satisfactory completion of self funded type
training and flying required hours on type you will be offered with the
post of first officer. Only those successful candidate’s application
form will be processed and will be communicated for further proceeding,
all other candidate’s forms will be returned or confidentially
destroyed.

As you know, the position for an entry level first officer or cadet
pilot is open and we are looking for hardworking and dedicated flight
crew. Shortlisted and successful applicants will be offered with
employment contract within one week after receiving this mail.
Candidates not contacted 1-2 weeks after submission of applications may
consider their application unsuccessful.

General Conditions:
Candidate would be scrutinized and prima facie eligible candidates will
be contacted and allowed to appear for further process. Please also note
that, the candidature is purely provisional and the candidates being
allowed to appear for the process, does not in any way establish their
eligibility for the post. If on screening of their application/
document(s), it is found that, they do not possess the laid down
qualification/ experience/ physical appearance/ stipulated eligibility
criteria, their candidature is liable to be rejected at any stage,
without entering into any correspondence with the candidates in the
matter.

Evidence of qualifications:
Only completed applications will be reviewed. You will be required to
furnish more documents from time to time. Please be advised that, you
should send exactly those mentioned documents only, kindly refrain from
sending any other which were not asked for.

Expenses:
Candidate must bear the expenses involved towards respective type
rating. The company will pay travel and all other expenses involved
towards type training as well as line training.

Type training:
i) Selected candidates will be imparted training at any place decided
by the Company,
ii) Type rating programme have tailored in such a way that, each trainee
pilot will log minimum 300 hours,
iiI) Period of Fixed Term C o n t r a c t u a l Engagement: Candidates
will be engaged on a Fixed Term contract initially for a period of two
years, which is extendable subject to performance of the candidate and
the Company’s requirement.

Emoluments:
i) During period of type training, the candidates will be given a
stipend of USD ($) 500. per month,
ii) After successful completion of type training and during the first
year of the engagement; first officer will draw monthly salary and
allowances of USD ($) 4050. per month apart from free accommodation
(with or without family) transportation, daily allowances (per Diem),
food (on duty), insurance etc.,
iii) There will be an increment of 12% salary from second year.

Full details are entered with the employment contract.

Prior to starting this application process one should ensure that, those
flight crew who do not have experience with scheduled operator (read non
type rated) would be required to pay for the type rating.

Following are the process to join our team,
1. Administrative Department will communicate with the applicants,
2. Administrative Department will ask more documents from applicants,
3. Employment contract will be prepared and to sign;
i. may visit our office at Jayapura, Papua, Indonesia (once COVID 19
pandemic travel restrictions are lifted for
foreigners, availability of post at that time) or
ii. soft copy can be send through e-mail
iii. pay the required fees and sign the contract
iv. air ticket will be issued to join simulator training.

May forward us following documents to proceed further (only if you are
able to fund type rating and agree with above mentioned terms and
conditions);
a. your signed CV with recent passport size photograph on it
b. copy of your CPL/ ATPL
c. copy of your current Class I Medical Certificate
d. first and last two pages of your logbook
e. first and last page of your passport
f. filled and signed attached application form, kindly fill all column,
clearly mention the type of aircraft you are opting for (see "POST
APPLIED FOR" column).

You are advised to send exactly those mentioned documents only.

We will proceed to next step of preparation of employment and type
rating contract once we receive your reply mail with required
attachments.

Please feel free to contact us should you need any clarification.

Kind Regards,
Sithara Dilakshana,
Head of Administration,
JL. A. Yani No. 18-27, Bali Tower, Jayapura 99111, Papua. Indonesia.
e-mail: [email protected], www(dot)newbalirair(dot)com

Type training cost: includes 300 on type hours;
1. Dash 8 Q300/400 USD 25,000. ($ Twenty five thousand).
2. ATR 72 212/600 USD 27,000. ($ Twenty seven thousand).
3. Airbus A 320 USD 30,000. ($ Thirty thousand).
4. Falcon 50, Bombardier Global 7500 USD 45,000. ($ Forty five
thousand).
5. IL 76 USD 40,000. ($ Forty thousand).

Note:
* Said fees includes all other expenses involved towards respective
type rating as well as 300 on type hours.
** Above mentioned are those types available as of now.

Please Note: This email and any files transmitted with it are
confidential and/or privileged. They are intended solely for the use of
the intended recipient. The content of this email and any files
transmitted with it may have been changed or altered without the consent
of the author. If you are not the intended recipient please note that
any review, dissemination, disclosure, alteration, printing, copying or
transmission of this email and/or any file transmitted with it is
prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this email and any
file transmitted with in error, please notify New Bali Air at e-mail:
[email protected]

WARNING: Computer viruses can be transmitted via email. The recipient
should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses.
The company accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus
transmitted by this email. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to
be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted,
lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The
sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions
in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail
transmission.
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Old 3rd Oct 2020, 11:10
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Yes ! They changed the fees, but actually I'm not interested on them after my checks about their credibility last june.
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Old 3rd Oct 2020, 11:23
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Many opportunities here in Kano , accept payment in crypto or western union
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Old 6th Jan 2021, 22:10
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New Bali Air

Happy new year guys,

I’ve seen a couple of days ago a new application posting of an airline called New Bali Air. I sent them a message cause I was interested in the FO position sending my cv. They’ve replied me today with a bunch of info, prices (in USD) and a form. I saw the company website where you can’t even book a flight, too many aircraft models: A320, ATR 72-600, Bombardier, Falcon ... and no signs of LinkedIn or any worker... what do u think? Should I trust ?
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Old 7th Jan 2021, 04:37
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Originally Posted by pfvspnf View Post
Many opportunities here in Kano , accept payment in crypto or western union
You're a comedian.
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Old 7th Jan 2021, 09:17
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Should I trust it?,,,,, Really!!

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Old 7th Jan 2021, 11:56
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absolutely NO ❗ don't trust it.
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Old 7th Jan 2021, 14:32
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I was being sarcastic. Aviatrixflying you just answered your question before Zak did,
look at what you posted. Cant book a flight, too many types.
hmmm gotta be a clue.
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Old 8th Jan 2021, 03:42
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Good time to start an airline as well, right in the middle of a pandemic with your operating base closed to tourists and one of your major markets (Australia) forbidding its citizens from travelling abroad.

No matter how desperate you are, hang onto your money. Realistically there are no opportunities for new pilots available at the moment, or likely to be any for the next few years. Unfortunately there is no shortage of scammers wanting to take advantage of the current situation.

Just for reference, my employer has let go 1/4 of flight crew and is currently well overstaffed in anticipation of having the correct number in 2 years time. IF they have got it right and need to recruit soon afterwards, they have 100+ pilots on the books who have priority for being re employed. Once those who want to return are back there will be hundreds of qualified and experienced crew unemployed and immediately available if they need anymore.

My advice: Find another job for the next few years but keep an eye on aviation and try to stay current until it picks up again.
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Old 9th Jan 2021, 09:11
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I know we have long sunk into low low level of intellectual prior to my calling quits of aviation. But this one, is just plain dumb.

IF, you have to pay in ANY form of fees or money prior to your joining of the company, you should know you are one of the desperate AND naive idiots. I read in disgust of young punks justifying their race to the bottom by saying everyone is in for their own cause. Well, start getting real. The aviation future is gone for good, at least not for another decade before the next impending boom, that NEVER seems to ever come about.

What worries me at the slightest bit sipping coffee at my veranda here in my lovely own retirement home, is not the desperation, not even the stupidity, but just how simply idiotic some of these desperadoes are and these clowns will eventually make their way into some slimy LCC that sell hours and experience and letting them be at the pointy end of shinny tubes.

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Old 9th Jan 2021, 15:45
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Originally Posted by aviatrixflying View Post
what do u think? Should I trust ?
May I suggest you take a course or learn some Critical Thinking Skills.

You've been told over and over again what this is - yet you appear not to have understood anything people have said.
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Old 10th Jan 2021, 03:37
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Great airline , you shouldn’t encounter any issues after payment. It’s not for those that are tight with cash
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Old 17th Jan 2021, 12:37
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Look at the fleet : A 320, B 737 700/800, ATR 72-212, Dash-8-Q300/400 no kidding anymore lah!
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