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Old 13th Apr 2018, 00:29
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Question Which airlines are safest around Cambodia, Vietnam, Malaysia?

Hi everyone, I'm an aviation enthusiast (maybe one-day pilot) from England stationed in Cambodia for business; I'd say I'm an advanced enthusiast: I follow the industry a lot, including the forums, safety news and the famous tv series, and must admit have become safety quite conscious/nervous/(paranoid?) about flying (I'd always choose British Airways over Ryanair, which may have reduced some of my university holiday options at some point...).

Because of work I will need to travel to Vietnam and Malaysia (and other Southeast Asian countries) frequently and all the obvious options have quite negative ratings or history compared to my EU favourites, or are too new to have any data:
Malaysian Airlines
AirAsia
Malindo Air
VietJet
I also read that some airlines don't have the IOSA certification.

So if you are safety-conscious, too, which airlines would you fly on if you had to for work?
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Old 14th Apr 2018, 00:09
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If you’re based in Cambodia then your options are a bit limited for the countries you want to travel to unless you are willing to pay more for an indirect flight.

Bangkok Airways and SilkAir would top my list. Thai Airways and Vietnam Airlines wouldn’t cause me to lose much sleep either. Malaysia Airlines had two disasters in one year which totally messed up their record. The first one is yet to be explained, the second was simply wrong place at the wrong time as other airlines were flying the same route.

Which ever airline you choose is going to be safer than the long distance bus, especially the overnight ones.
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Old 14th Apr 2018, 00:23
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Originally Posted by MekongBritish View Post
Hi everyone, I'm an aviation enthusiast (maybe one-day pilot) from England stationed in Cambodia for business; I'd say I'm an advanced enthusiast: I follow the industry a lot, including the forums, safety news and the famous tv series, and must admit have become safety quite conscious/nervous/(paranoid?) about flying (I'd always choose British Airways over Ryanair, which may have reduced some of my university holiday options at some point...).

Because of work I will need to travel to Vietnam and Malaysia (and other Southeast Asian countries) frequently and all the obvious options have quite negative ratings or history compared to my EU favourites, or are too new to have any data:
Malaysian Airlines
AirAsia
Malindo Air
VietJet
I also read that some airlines don't have the IOSA certification.

So if you are safety-conscious, too, which airlines would you fly on if you had to for work?
From the safety perspective, what's wrong with Ryanair?
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Old 15th Apr 2018, 07:01
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I also read that some airlines don't have the IOSA certification.
That's a good start. Choose the airlines which have IOSA certification. Although it's no guarantee that you won't experience an incident or accident, you'll at least know the airlines with IOSA certification have thought about safety.
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Old 16th Apr 2018, 02:47
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Cambodia Angkor air is also largely owned and (I believe) entirely operated by Vietnam airlines so I would have minimal concerns about them

I would avoid VietJet for other reasons

Qatar airways also have a couple of handy fifty freedom flights- Hanoi to Bangkok and Ho Chi Minh City to Phnom Penh IIRC
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Old 16th Apr 2018, 03:36
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Have flown Vietnam, Thai, Malaysian, Garuda quite a few times. I would have no problem flying with them again.

Have flown Angkor and AirAsia once each, and obviously survived.
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I think you are asking the wrong type of question.When the weather is nice, and flying in daytime, just about any airline with a fairly modern airplane will be quite safe.Where your risk factor increases dramatically is when flying at night and/or in poor weather.In this case the better training, safety awareness and crew experience levels of bigger, national carriers will improve your chances of avoiding an accident dramatically.Not a guarantee but less risk......
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Old 19th Apr 2018, 11:59
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Malindo are fine - many ex MAS pilots there and a great NG fleet.
Thai Lion (IOSA cert) also if you travel to BKK and onwards.

Air Asia is generally the best LCC option for PP but otherwise both TG & PG are both good via BKK. Vietnam are okay as well and provide good links.

Definitely give VietJet a miss.
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Old 19th Apr 2018, 16:45
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Malindo are fine - many ex MAS pilots there and a great NG fleet.
Thai Lion (IOSA cert) also if you travel to BKK and onwards.

Air Asia is generally the best LCC option for PP but otherwise both TG & PG are both good via BKK. Vietnam are okay as well and provide good links.

Definitely give VietJet a miss.
Whilst I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, what are you basing your advise on?
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Whilst I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, what are you basing your advise on?
Which advice, ie. airline, are you specifically referring to?
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Which advice, ie. airline, are you specifically referring to?
All of it.
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Malindo are fine ...
Are they really? Yeh right
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Old 26th Apr 2018, 11:39
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All of it.
I've flown with TG, PG, VN and FD (Air Asia) in and out of PP over the last 20 years between Thailand, Laos and Vietnam.

TG and PG are both good - though PG A320s are getting old. VN and Air Asia no problems, except for delays on the air Asia side not being uncommon.

Malindo wise - regardless of the the Nepal incident last week - I would say that they are the best of any of the Lion Group airlines. I know many pilots at all the Lion Group airlines so its based on insight as well as personal experience with all of them. MAS is obviously preferable too but Chocks would obviously not fly with them given what happened in 2014.....(along with QF, SQ, EK etc given prior incidents).

You have plenty of choice and like everyone, you'll chose based on your priorities and needs.
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