Suparna Airlines

[747inwonderland]

Originally Posted by dustyskies

Hey 747inwonderland,

All good and valid points. Let me ask you one thing though. Are your days off (10 days consecutive) affected by those roster changes? If I am not mistaken they offer currently offer 10 days off, correct me if I am wrong.

Thx.

according to contract we are having now....9 days. you can add your al to hl if conditions permitted.
hard to say if you will be permitted or not, it all depends on operation conditions...i.e. your request might be rejected.

[HURZ]

747 in WL is, from what I heared from other sources, right with the unstable and unpredicable schedules.
Besides this, I think it’s a high risk involved considering the real big financial problems of HNA which even stopped trading on the Chinese stockmarked for 7 of it’s companies, including Hainan Airlines. I was really considering this company but for now I think it’s a big gamble and it doesn’t make sense to leave a secure job just for the money and going for an unpredictable future. Just my two cents....

[747inwonderland]

Originally Posted by HURZ

747 in WL is, from what I heared from other sources, right with the unstable and unpredicable schedules.
Besides this, I think it’s a high risk involved considering the real big financial problems of HNA which even stopped trading on the Chinese stockmarked for 7 of it’s companies, including Hainan Airlines. I was really considering this company but for now I think it’s a big gamble and it doesn’t make sense to leave a secure job just for the money and going for an unpredictable future. Just my two cents....

Yes, you are absolutely right. Do not come unless you desperately need a job. Even without the HNA financial crisis, Y8 is not a company that keeps its promises well.

[747inwonderland]

Originally Posted by zoom33

11 days off (consecutive) and you can cumulate end of month / beginning next month.

Only if Y8 can keep their promise.
But the truth is that Y8 still owes most 744 expats so many AL from previous years. No one knows how and when will Y8 pay back.

[747inwonderland]

Originally Posted by TBL Warrior

What about remuneration? Do you get what you are entitled, and on time?

yes, like i said before, remuneration is on time so far, but reimburstment is not.

[Mike0103]

Hello ,

Any of the guys working there willing to share a sample roster or how many days are actualy spent in PVG espacialy on the 11 day off contract?

[columbia747]

suparna alias yangtse

Suparna or \y8 interesting story
I was there some 9 years most promises even when written down are not kept
bases like ams bru ord forget it >will never happen
schedules usually published per week and then multiple changes per week cos AOG ATC slots etcetc>Crewhotels are on european two stars even one star
upgrades etc very seldom ,homeworks multi <The only good reason to be there is the money if you can stand the rest ,ideal for people close to retirement not for young people <Airline is hardly managed <Specially now that HNA gets in deep problems its not the ideal place >>>>>>

[MD80767 Driver]

Wow....this applicant is approaching minimums. When I started the approach, it was cavok. Now, it seems very foggy

[747inwonderland]

Originally Posted by TBL Warrior

Definitely reconsidering after reading this too.

I was looking at joining as NTR DEC B747. The bond is quite large Y8 are asking too. If the 18K USD P/M is paid (full time option) on time in full and they don’t play any games whereby putting you on another fleet i.e Narrow-body, I really don’t care about the rest.

Any other war stories? PM me if you would rather.

Be careful!!! We have had few cases that people pay the bond in advance but Y8 didn't pay them back when all promised conditions were fulfilled. Some are still fighting for it, some just left with anger...

[747inwonderland]

Latest news.....
Y8 is having difficulty to pay us overseas (accounts and USD out side of china). And after tax certificate issued by china is not promised.
Things remain unclear because long lunar new year holiday. Will check it out later....

[columbia747]

SF airlines starts now 747 ops aswell a far better option than suparna always fighting for cash and loans<SF has own coolhouses and warehouses and is like the DHL of China and they have capital at least and dont need to fight for contracts at marginal prices

[747inwonderland]

For those who are dreaming of upgrading or flying 787:
Please forget about that.
The only one 787 that Suparna operating now, may return to HNA in May. HNA needs cash!
For expat. FO upgrade, only one so far in more than 10 years.
Come only when you have retired or finished your career somewhere.
Not a place for young pilots.

[columbia747]

i agree completely wonderland

[extreme P]

Anybody know if the bills got paid on the 16th?

[danny_chi_1975]

Originally Posted by extreme P

Anybody know if the bills got paid on the 16th?

HNA ground staff told me that HNA has paid full amount.

[etops777]

Originally Posted by danny_chi_1975

HNA ground staff told me that HNA has paid full amount.

According to the news report that HNA had paid a partial amounts and that they will make a plan to pay off in instalments. Crisis is not yet over.

[danny_chi_1975]

Originally Posted by etops777

According to the news report that HNA had paid a partial amounts and that they will make a plan to pay off in instalments. Crisis is not yet over.

According to news, HNA paid full amount of fuel bill, but didnt pay the interest which fuel company request.
I assume etops777 you can read chinese, so here comes the link.

hk.finance.appledaily.com/finance/realtime/article/20180316/57954626

I am considering to apply HNA group so I am very interested if you could provide me the news you read? Thanks

[vespaspecial]

Hi gents,

I'm considering to join Suparna as DEC Type rated 747;
Anyone willing to share some info?
According to Longreach:

1. It is possible to spread the 20 days of leave every month, so basically 2 weeks on 2 weeks off roster.
2. There is also the option to start and finish the duty pattern on overseas bases (in my case either AMS or BRU).
3. During ground training and line training the Performance allowance and Monthly allowance are paid.

Can I rely on these info given by the agency?

Suparna does actually allow pilots to do so? Can you please give more details about it?

Really appreciated,
thanks guys.

[747inwonderland]

Originally Posted by vespaspecial

Hi gents,

I'm considering to join Suparna as DEC Type rated 747;
Anyone willing to share some info?
According to Longreach:

1. It is possible to spread the 20 days of leave every month, so basically 2 weeks on 2 weeks off roster.
2. There is also the option to start and finish the duty pattern on overseas bases (in my case either AMS or BRU).
3. During ground training and line training the Performance allowance and Monthly allowance are paid.

Can I rely on these info given by the agency?

Suparna does actually allow pilots to do so? Can you please give more details about it?

Really appreciated,
thanks guys.

very suspicious.........

[vespaspecial]

Thanks for the answer 747inwonderland.
What do you mean with "very suspicious.."?
I should not trust them?
It's an important call I have to make so I wanna be sure before to continue or to commit..