This must be the lowest paid basic salary pilot job..
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Yes you are right. But when you ask about the terms and conditions they will let you know that this is GROSS salary and that you need you need to pay 32% tax.
I do not know if the 1500$ are taxable.
I do not know if the 1500$ are taxable.
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There is a lot CP won't tell you or just lie about. And contracts mean nothing to them, contracts are only to insure the applicant will be obedient, the company can do anything they want when they want.
There has been a slew of lawsuits filed by expats against CP for their actions in regards to employment.
There has been a slew of lawsuits filed by expats against CP for their actions in regards to employment.
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There is a lot CP won't tell you or just lie about. And contracts mean nothing to them, contracts are only to insure the applicant will be obedient, the company can do anything they want when they want.
There has been a slew of lawsuits filed by expats against CP for their actions in regards to employment.
There has been a slew of lawsuits filed by expats against CP for their actions in regards to employment.
Curious, what was the outcome of the Expat Employment Lawsuits?
Also, I thought PARC/CAE was doing the hiring and salary payment since they are providing the pilots to CP. So will they not make sure CP will not break the terms & conditions of the contract?
Does anybody have any experience dealing with PARC/CAE?
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Some are still ongoing.
Also understand any contract is only as good as the parties signing.
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Consider other factors in this "offer". If you take it, you are responsible to pay for your medical, your work permit and all associated cost that comes with the license conversion. Another tidbit they won't tell you is you won't be paid while in training or while you get your initial operating experience on the line, except for a tiny "training allowance" which is only P20,000/month. And with the scheduling this could take 6 plus months.
So with the initial outlay of cash by the pilot (figure about $4k US) and only earning about $400 US a month for the first 6 months (that's if they actually pay you on time, which is rare) a prospective pilot is in negative before he ever realizes and productivity pay.
And don't forget the training bond. Yep, the new pilot will sign a training bond for three years (or more) for about 10 times more than the training received.
So with the initial outlay of cash by the pilot (figure about $4k US) and only earning about $400 US a month for the first 6 months (that's if they actually pay you on time, which is rare) a prospective pilot is in negative before he ever realizes and productivity pay.
And don't forget the training bond. Yep, the new pilot will sign a training bond for three years (or more) for about 10 times more than the training received.
POS Company!
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I believe you! But then why is PARC/CAE advertising 8000USD monthly salary and 1500USD monthly accommodation allowance?
If they do not offer that then what about their reputation?
If they do not offer that then what about their reputation?
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Just keep asking as to why so many expats have fled this airline. Some have even just left the country without telling the airline or anyone just to get away from the nightmare.
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I have seen new guys both locals and expats in VNA, Vietjet, Asiana, HKE, HKA and HKA Cargo. It seems to me that there is a great problem on "LEADERSHIP" in all aspects. Management people steered the "ship" with greedy intention at the cost of loyal pilots. HR tinkered with pilot's pay without any process of justification. FRMS delayed again (since 2 years) on A320, unstable rostering, racist treatment of locals etc...
It seems that nobody wants to be in this "ship". Many pilots on standby for the promised "signing bonus" on the other legacy airline. A lower pay but a better package and good working conditions.
Who is telling the truth? "Action speaks louder than word."
Your guess is as good as mine.
It seems that nobody wants to be in this "ship". Many pilots on standby for the promised "signing bonus" on the other legacy airline. A lower pay but a better package and good working conditions.
Who is telling the truth? "Action speaks louder than word."
Your guess is as good as mine.
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This must be the lowest paid basic salary pilot job..
Are they even any EXPAT pilots working for 5J and on what types of contracts or all 'jumped ship'?
Will be interesting to find out if any of the 'Big Dolla' contracts advertised by PARC/CAE will be honored by it!
Will be interesting to find out if any of the 'Big Dolla' contracts advertised by PARC/CAE will be honored by it!
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Just found out that that we will not be on a PARC contract but on a CEBU contract and CEBU pays your salary, so basically they can do whatever they want with you. PARC is only doing the recruitment for CEBU, they have no other responsibility.
Basically they are using PARCS name and the promise of big dollar contracts to lure pilots to CEBU. I am cancelling my application.
I am also VERY surprised by PARC that they are supporting this kind of companies. That they would try to trick pilots like this, I thought they where more proffessional than this. Its more or less FRAUD.
Basically they are using PARCS name and the promise of big dollar contracts to lure pilots to CEBU. I am cancelling my application.
I am also VERY surprised by PARC that they are supporting this kind of companies. That they would try to trick pilots like this, I thought they where more proffessional than this. Its more or less FRAUD.
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Just found out that that we will not be on a PARC contract but on a CEBU contract and CEBU pays your salary, so basically they can do whatever they want with you. PARC is only doing the recruitment for CEBU, they have no other responsibility.
Basically they are using PARCS name and the promise of big dollar contracts to lure pilots to CEBU. I am cancelling my application.
I am also VERY surprised by PARC that they are supporting this kind of companies. That they would try to trick pilots like this, I thought they where more proffessional than this. Its more or less FRAUD.
Basically they are using PARCS name and the promise of big dollar contracts to lure pilots to CEBU. I am cancelling my application.
I am also VERY surprised by PARC that they are supporting this kind of companies. That they would try to trick pilots like this, I thought they where more proffessional than this. Its more or less FRAUD.
CP would use such a tactic? Oh the shock of it all!
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re:PARC/A330 FO Update
Last Updated Date: Dec 4, 2017
Position:A330 First Officer
Job Type:Contract
Location:Pasay City, Philippines
We are delighted to inform you that CAE Parc Aviation are currently recruiting for experienced A330 First Officers on behalf of our client, Cebu Pacific.
Please find below the requirements for this position based in Manila, Philippines.
Base: Manila, Philippines
Duration: 2 years (Alternative length of contract available upon request)
Roster: 6 weeks on/2 weeks off (Commuting)
Last flight on type within 6-12 months
Flight time:
Total flight time in excess of 2000 hrs
500 hrs on A330/A340
Base: Manila
Monthly Salary: USD 8,000 per month
Screening Plan: On-going
Standard roster of 6 weeks on/2 weeks off
Off Duty Days: 8 days off per month
Accommodation USD 1,500 accommodation allowance provided per month
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With the well known reputation of CP why do you guys keep hoping there is a golden opportunity with them? Why do you want to work for a low pay carrier with no benefits to speak of, horrible schedules, probably the worst training in the industry and a culture that despises expats?
That's the question isn't it. Perhaps CP is a steppingstone to something better ? Would that explain why people will endure the abuse in the short term ?
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Why would anyone want that smudge on their resume? The industry is aware of the incredible low standards of CP as well as the non existent standards of CAAP.
In this day and age of pilot shortages CP still resorts to requiring training bonds, not to cover training, but to place the pilot into indentured servitude.
I do know people often take lesser quality positions on their way to bigger and better. In fact, that's rather common.
This ENTIRE website is running over with reports of ghastly bad jobs...and people inquiring how to get in on the deals.
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