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Hey guys...just saw the command upgrade FO to Capt by lion air,,Can anyone confirm the P1hours gained from lion command is recognised by DCA Malaysia....kinda blur on this matter..since I have all P2 hours now..I'm scared later if it's not recognised
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Why they shouldn't? However as I understood you have to make sure that your dgca accepts to endorse your left seat qualification in your original license (no restriction) because you gonna fly under validation for all the time you fly for Lion Air.
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hi Folks,
is here any hope this hold on senior expat FO recruitment at Lion Air is gonna be lifted anytime soon ? i managed to rack up my 1000 hrs on type just now and i am really keen to apply at Lion. i.e even without the offer of the upgrade.
my current employer will be laying off expat pilots in few months so i need to find a job urgently.
thanks
is here any hope this hold on senior expat FO recruitment at Lion Air is gonna be lifted anytime soon ? i managed to rack up my 1000 hrs on type just now and i am really keen to apply at Lion. i.e even without the offer of the upgrade.
my current employer will be laying off expat pilots in few months so i need to find a job urgently.
thanks
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Hi..!!If you do have some infos about screening items in Lion air,can you pls advise me items;;1. Written Test2. Interview Test3. Psychological Test*4. Internal Medical Test*5. Flight skill assessment..Many thanks in advance
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Bad roster
Don't expect an easy roster, I have spoken with dozens of former and current Lion expat Capts. Often working 6 days on 1 day off, schedules changed late the night before, being asked to fly on your day off etc
Senior Indonesian Capts keep changing their schedule asking for easier or preferred flights. A few expat Capts have even referred to having their FO taken away from them after reporting for duty by a high status Indonesian Capts who like flying with the FO, on some occasions literally while walking to the aircraft!
Scheduling and rosters there are a mess and have been for years.
Perhaps it has all recently improved ......?
Senior Indonesian Capts keep changing their schedule asking for easier or preferred flights. A few expat Capts have even referred to having their FO taken away from them after reporting for duty by a high status Indonesian Capts who like flying with the FO, on some occasions literally while walking to the aircraft!
Scheduling and rosters there are a mess and have been for years.
Perhaps it has all recently improved ......?
Crew control/scheduling can and will call you even when you just about leave home or on the way for the airport because to ‘minimize delay’ or lack or pilot on certain flights. It’s a domino effect. Crew who’s inbound to CGK will be called to extend duty, at times this means another layover. The only time you’re save from this if you’re already on your sixth day duty (not legal on the 7th under Indonesian CASR)
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Welcome to the jungle
If you’re interested after reading this...
Interview: several management pilot will throw you questions, stabilized approach elements, memory items, CRM
Simulator: RAW data with two engine, No FD, NO AP, No AT. just the old fashion way. Departure, climb to low altitude while interecepting a VOR radial. Steep turn with 45 degrees bank. ILS approach, go around at minimums and join the downwind for visual approach. And then the fun part for rated candidates. FD and AT may be turned on, takeoff with V 1 Cut, ILS engine inoperative with FD with reasonably low ceilings/visibility to assure your ability to fly.
Salary is good for expats only. Local is receiving lower numbers. There you go, be prepare to face jealousy.
Roster is unstable as they have too many airplanes, they try to sell as many seats on as many flight as possible but at the same time they will cancel flight not meeting BEP on daily basis. You can say to have a stable roster is only a dream. To have a consecutive days off while in the country is impossible except if it’s in your contract.
Be prepare to buy your own uniform. They give you the cap, tie and wings. You can use Boeing or Hard Rock Cafe lanyard as they don’t give you one.
Don’t drive to fly. Use taxi to report to HQ located several miles west of CGK 2 hours before STD and then proceed to the airport try to reach there 1 hour before.
Normal roster will be 3-4 days away from base (it’s only CGK despite the Agency is trying to sell DPS for you). Be prepare to have surprises every time you’re on the last sector to CGK as Crew control will try to put you on another flight and another layover. That’s to be expected on weekends. A one day trip will usually consisting of a 4 short sectors/landings or 2 long sectors. Normal turn around time is 45 minutes. If you’re expecting a day off then it’s normal to land at CGK very late in the evening and report early morning after just 1 day at home. When you’re on rest time don’t be surprised if scheduling is calling because of roster change... they are just doing their job... seriously..they don’t know it’s against regulation.... just save the flight.
Expect to reply to schedule revision SMS on daily basis. If you don’t check in then they will send the SMS again. Still no reply? They’ll call and finally the fleet manager will call you.
CASR flight time limit is like FAA... 30/7 days, 110/months, 1050 annually. But JT is putting the carrot by offering double the money after you reach a certain hour every ten hour. It will be really tempting as some will bust the limit..no the authority doesn’t really care.. and your record will be safely erased (finger crossed). The show must go on!
A young guy from a rich family (the money for the flight training) will be usually your flying buddy. While most are good in normal flying many think familiarizing with the memory items (limitations, NNCs, maneuvers) is an exaggeration. You can see puzzled face if you engage them in the topics. Some are even worse, they don’t brief at all just says “Briefing standard” ...yeah do it just like yesterday. Takeoff and landings ... been there done that.
Airplane: Maintenance wise expect some MEL items open expect when the airplane’s age is relatively young (1-2 year). Be really careful reading the MEL as English standard is poor, they could put the indicator as being inoperative while it is actually the system.
If you are adventurous about food and like spice (hot spicy) go ahead have the crew meal. Don’t expect it will be a proper lunch or dinner. Think as if it’s a snack before you buy your own meal. And also hygiene and quality with crew meal is an issue.
There you go...you’ve been warned
Cheers...
Interview: several management pilot will throw you questions, stabilized approach elements, memory items, CRM
Simulator: RAW data with two engine, No FD, NO AP, No AT. just the old fashion way. Departure, climb to low altitude while interecepting a VOR radial. Steep turn with 45 degrees bank. ILS approach, go around at minimums and join the downwind for visual approach. And then the fun part for rated candidates. FD and AT may be turned on, takeoff with V 1 Cut, ILS engine inoperative with FD with reasonably low ceilings/visibility to assure your ability to fly.
Salary is good for expats only. Local is receiving lower numbers. There you go, be prepare to face jealousy.
Roster is unstable as they have too many airplanes, they try to sell as many seats on as many flight as possible but at the same time they will cancel flight not meeting BEP on daily basis. You can say to have a stable roster is only a dream. To have a consecutive days off while in the country is impossible except if it’s in your contract.
Be prepare to buy your own uniform. They give you the cap, tie and wings. You can use Boeing or Hard Rock Cafe lanyard as they don’t give you one.
Don’t drive to fly. Use taxi to report to HQ located several miles west of CGK 2 hours before STD and then proceed to the airport try to reach there 1 hour before.
Normal roster will be 3-4 days away from base (it’s only CGK despite the Agency is trying to sell DPS for you). Be prepare to have surprises every time you’re on the last sector to CGK as Crew control will try to put you on another flight and another layover. That’s to be expected on weekends. A one day trip will usually consisting of a 4 short sectors/landings or 2 long sectors. Normal turn around time is 45 minutes. If you’re expecting a day off then it’s normal to land at CGK very late in the evening and report early morning after just 1 day at home. When you’re on rest time don’t be surprised if scheduling is calling because of roster change... they are just doing their job... seriously..they don’t know it’s against regulation.... just save the flight.
Expect to reply to schedule revision SMS on daily basis. If you don’t check in then they will send the SMS again. Still no reply? They’ll call and finally the fleet manager will call you.
CASR flight time limit is like FAA... 30/7 days, 110/months, 1050 annually. But JT is putting the carrot by offering double the money after you reach a certain hour every ten hour. It will be really tempting as some will bust the limit..no the authority doesn’t really care.. and your record will be safely erased (finger crossed). The show must go on!
A young guy from a rich family (the money for the flight training) will be usually your flying buddy. While most are good in normal flying many think familiarizing with the memory items (limitations, NNCs, maneuvers) is an exaggeration. You can see puzzled face if you engage them in the topics. Some are even worse, they don’t brief at all just says “Briefing standard” ...yeah do it just like yesterday. Takeoff and landings ... been there done that.
Airplane: Maintenance wise expect some MEL items open expect when the airplane’s age is relatively young (1-2 year). Be really careful reading the MEL as English standard is poor, they could put the indicator as being inoperative while it is actually the system.
If you are adventurous about food and like spice (hot spicy) go ahead have the crew meal. Don’t expect it will be a proper lunch or dinner. Think as if it’s a snack before you buy your own meal. And also hygiene and quality with crew meal is an issue.
There you go...you’ve been warned
Cheers...
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DGCA Indonesian Air Law & MET Exam
Folks,
Looking for any information on the latest DGCA Indonesian Meteorology Exam. I am sitting the Exam in 2 weeks.
Any info would be Of assistance.....
Cheers;
Nash
Looking for any information on the latest DGCA Indonesian Meteorology Exam. I am sitting the Exam in 2 weeks.
Any info would be Of assistance.....
Cheers;
Nash
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A young guy from a rich family (the money for the flight training) will be usually your flying buddy. While most are good in normal flying many think familiarizing with the memory items (limitations, NNCs, maneuvers) is an exaggeration. You can see puzzled face if you engage them in the topics. Some are even worse, they don’t brief at all just says “Briefing standard” ...yeah do it just like yesterday. Takeoff and landings ... been there done that.
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A young guy from a rich family (the money for the flight training) will be usually your flying buddy. While most are good in normal flying many think familiarizing with the memory items (limitations, NNCs, maneuvers) is an exaggeration. You can see puzzled face if you engage them in the topics. Some are even worse, they don’t brief at all just says “Briefing standard” ...yeah do it just like yesterday. Takeoff and landings ... been there done that.
Welcome to Indonesia!
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